The new acting head of the TTC has split with his former boss and admitted the transit agency is preparing for the possibility Bombardier will be unable to deliver the entirety of the city’s new streetcar fleet by the end of next year.
In a wide-ranging interview in the seventh-floor corner office at TTC headquarters recently vacated by former chief executive officer Andy Byford, acting CEO Rick Leary said he was “putting a Plan B together” in the event the streetcar order is not completed as scheduled.
Under the original terms of the $1-billion purchase, Bombardier was supposed to deliver all 204 new vehicles by the end of 2019. But the company has consistently blown deadlines; it was supposed to have supplied a total of 148 cars by the end of 2017, but instead managed just 59.
Byford, who left the TTC in December for New York City Transit, insisted throughout his tenure that despite repeated setbacks he wouldn’t allow Bombardier to miss the 2019 end-date.
But in a break from that stance, Leary suggested the original timeline is no longer realistic and said the TTC can’t afford to be unprepared if the fleet isn’t delivered on time. The agency is currently making up the shortage by running buses on some streetcar routes and keeping streetcars that are more than 30 years old in service for longer than intended.
“There’s no doubt it’s in jeopardy. I probably shouldn’t go that far, but it’s in jeopardy,” Leary said of the 2019 target.
“I’ve been buying trains and streetcars and buses for 15, 18 years. I don’t want to say that (Bombardier is) not going to make the end of ’19, but I would say I have asked them for a real, true realistic schedule.”...
It has a lot to do with the Flexity's.This doesn't have to do with the Flexity's and the s**tshow that is Bombardier. Munro says so right in his quoted Twitter posts.
Yes, February. I've seen nothing but streetcars on 506 all weekend. And now it's going to be warm for the next week, streetcars will be back. However TTC moved a lot of the already scheduled 504 peak runs using buses to 505, and those 505 cars to 504, to increase capacity in the King pilot area.And buses on 505 and buses on 506...but wasn't that supposed to be in February? Hard to believe so many of the CLRVs are dead in the water because of the cold. But it is damn cold.
I don't think that's true. In Toronto alone, the GO equipment seems fine. And the TR implementation went better than many similar projects.Bombardier has not built a good product since the T1s.
They shipped 16 in the last 3 calendar months. And the other 2 they'd hoped to ship are apparently all but done waiting for some parts to arrive. That's 64 a year, and almost 72 a year. 76 isn't that impossible.And no I really don't think they can build 6 cars a month right now. I think they could possibly build and ship one per week. Not 76 as scheduled, but certainly an improvement.
The target is about 3 a fortnight, not 3 a week!I believe their target is 3 per week.
That might be for all Flexity's produced in Canada, including the Toronto, Waterloo, and Edmonton cars.3 per week? Thats 156 per year give or take. Pretty ambitious if they could pull that one off.
And about 4 weeks production.If we do a comparison of the total cars shipped, they are currently short 11 out of the 70 that should have been on hand on Dec 31/2017. That’s a 15.7% shortfall.
No it didn't. TTC didn't publish it in the CEO report until weeks after they received it. Probably about 6 weeks.The tally was altered several times, but in the waning days of November/December the “schedule” was altered for months that had already passed by.
Better for for shipped. As 2 of the 16 they shipped in the last quarter, didn't get delivered until 2018. Or else you'll be double counting, as they are already at 2.Let’s see what happens in 2018. If Bombardier can really get 17 units delivered in the first quarter, I will be convinced they have turned themselves around.
Yes, the refurbishment program itself was intended to offset the delays to the Flexity deliveries even in 2015, but since that time it is evident the TTC is failing at refurbishing them.
I had a looked at the Queensway in Dec and all the rails are in place with concrete pour for them. Overhead support still missing for much of it as well the overhead. Never got a look at the loop at all.
The section from the loop to Park Lawn should be finish in Feb, subject to the weather, not the plan Dec date.
It's way more difficult than simply "hopping in the seat and off you go". I woudn't recommend trying it, but if you were to do so you wouldn't get very far.
The section from Park Lawn to the Loop was to be done by Dec 2017 with the Queensway being Feb.Didn't know it was planned to finish by Dec. I guess it's not as far behind as I thought. Still though would like to see these things completed in a shorter timeframe. 24h work windows being most optimal, at least for work that's less noisy..
Didn't know it was planned to finish by Dec. I guess it's not as far behind as I thought. Still though would like to see these things completed in a shorter timeframe. 24h work windows being most optimal, at least for work that's less noisy.
High water table around the south end of Grenadier Pond. Boreholes were dug at the end of the previous year, before our wet spring.
Imagine a place that was a swamp before it was infilled has a high water table.
Seriously before they got quotes some pilot holes should have been drilled to confirm the water table where they know there might be an issue. Instead of getting a competitive quote they are paying premium dollars for out of scope work.
The procurement department in the TTC needs to become professional.
This from the link in the Rick Leary story above:
In an email Friday, a spokesperson for the company insisted it remains “on track to deliver all 204 streetcars by the end of the original contract deadline.”
I'm glad Mr Leary has called out Bombardier on their nonsense. You cannot be "on track" if you are not up to date on the incremental deadlines. Bombardier can say they intend to complete the contract by end of 2019, but that is not the same thing. In addition to the 76 units promised for 2018, they will eventually need to make up for the missed shipments from 2017, as the schedule they issued in November has not officially been updated. So depending on your interpretation, either 33 or 35 cars from 2017 plus 76 for 2018 would mean the 111th vehicle should be at least built, if not shipped by 12/31/18. If not, they are not on track.