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Is this purple lightning temporary?
It looks amazing at night
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artemperederii said:
Is this purple lightning temporary?
It looks amazing at night
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They had the same light stands up on the mezzanine level during the winter (believe there were different colours too) and they were removed in Spring. You can see the movable light stands in your photos.

Really wish they would’ve incorporated permanent lighting all year round.

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Saw the sign with more details on this season’s lighting
 
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having visited The Well a few times, here are some negative thoughts:
1) the interior is way too dark - even on sunny days
2) the upper retail level gets very little foot traffic - wouldn't be surprised if many of those stores close
3) not sure how the semi-open design will work with a really cold winter. We had a mild winter last year, and it will be interesting to see how much people like this design when we have -15 degree weather
 
stevedean said:
having visited The Well a few times, here are some negative thoughts:
1) the interior is way too dark - even on sunny days
2) the upper retail level gets very little foot traffic - wouldn't be surprised if many of those stores close
3) not sure how the semi-open design will work with a really cold winter. We had a mild winter last year, and it will be interesting to see how much people like this design when we have -15 degree weather
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^Stores facing the street do well during the winter so why wouldn’t these?
 
rdaner said:
^Stores facing the street do well during the winter so why wouldn’t these?
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Do they though? I don't have data to prove/disprove that, but my sense is that a lot of businesses suffer in the winter months compared to fully enclosed malls
 
stevedean said:
Do they though? I don't have data to prove/disprove that, but my sense is that a lot of businesses suffer in the winter months compared to fully enclosed malls
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I only have anecdotal evidence from when I worked in a mall kiosk, but after Christmas every year, the place would be empty until March, so not sure it's the weather that's the main reason for the cold winter sales slump.
 
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So..... @DSC pointed out in another thread that the agenda for the next Bid Award Panel is up......

On that agenda is a miscellaneous blob of a contract (contains assorted road, water and other works) that has something some folks interested in this thread will wish to take note of .....

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@AHK probably knew about this already, as I'm quite sure the City doesn't slip much by him in this area of town..........

So that's the good news...........

Here's the bad news............the winning bidder: Sanscon. AHK's daily oversight will be required.
 
stevedean said:
having visited The Well a few times, here are some negative thoughts:
1) the interior is way too dark - even on sunny days
2) the upper retail level gets very little foot traffic - wouldn't be surprised if many of those stores close
3) not sure how the semi-open design will work with a really cold winter. We had a mild winter last year, and it will be interesting to see how much people like this design when we have -15 degree weather
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I agree with all your points and specifically point 3. Just to double down on point # 3). I went here last winter with my kids and we were freezing due to a cold draft, which makes it even colder. If they don't find a way to heat the place up during the winter months, I don't see many people going there in the months from January to March. All other points although true can be solved with minor variances to building such as installing more lighting and more escalators leading to upstairs through out the mall. The cold wind tunnel issue would need a whole work around with engineers and hence would likely not get done due to the high cost to amend. Best case scenario they install heating lamps everywhere similar to the one you see in Go Train shelters.
 
^I think that those who complain that The Well isn’t an enclosed suburban mall have entirely missed the point! lol It is meant to incorporate the morphology and built form of successful urban districts. 95% of retail spaces in the country are on the street and seem to do just fine. If one needs an enclosed mall then go to the Eaton Centre.
 
rdaner said:
^I think that those who complain that The Well isn’t an enclosed suburban mall have entirely missed the point! lol It is meant to incorporate the morphology and built form of successful urban districts. 95% of retail spaces in the country are on the street and seem to do just fine. If one needs an enclosed mall then go to the Eaton Centre.
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I think @Simeon was not complaining that the Well is not an enclosed mall. I think his/her point (which I agree with) is that in winter the Well is a rather windswept and dark place and this is not likely to attract idle 'wanderers" who might turn into actual purchasers. You note "built form of successful urban districts. 95% of retail spaces in the country are on the street and seem to do just fine". True, but streets usually have some sunshine and you can usually see the sky - if I had a choice(and I do) in winter I would probably choose to walk on a regular street rather than through the Well. It's a great place to wander in in summer but if a lot of people are like me and @Simeon and ignore it in winter then the stores will not do well and will probably close. We shall see soon enough, last year it had the huge advantage of a mild winter AND being very new.
 
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