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[ShonTron]

Via Globe and Mail/Bloomberg:

RioCan also is seeking approval to build on 54 acres in the suburbs. Shoppers World, a site in Brampton located near a large planned transit area, is currently a "broken down, old mall built in the early '70s that we've been trying to figure out what to do with," Mr. Sonshine said.


RioCan is working with the city to develop a master plan, he said, which will include 300,000 square feet of retail – less than half the current amount – and about 1,500 residential units, the majority being rental units. Those would be on top of the 10,000 units originally forecast. These projects would typically cost at least $150-million.

More at Bramptonist, a local source:

http://bramptonist.com/shoppers-world-to-be-redeveloped/

The mall's GLA would be reduced from the current 781,067 sq ft. At its peak, the mall had Simpson's (later the Bay, now demolished with a Bad Boy on the site), Pascal's Hardware (now Fabricland and Staples), K-Mart (later Zellers and Target, now vacant with a fitness centre moving in) and a Food City (now Oceans) and A&P (now medical offices and Winners).

The big-boxing of the mall (adding Canadian Tire, Staples) and cosmetic renovations in 2000-2002 helped buy the mall time, but with Target gone, and plenty of competition from surrounding big-box clusters, there's only so much this huge, under-invested mall can do before calling it quits.

 

[ShonTron]

There's an open house tomorrow in Downtown Brampton, RioCan representatives, and I suspect city staff (especially as it's held in a city-owned facility), will be in attendance:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1133493216005808130

 

[ShonTron]

I went to the meeting. There were a few boards to look at, a presentation, followed by table discussions (which I did not stay for).

RioCan is early in the game, with only some ideas of what to do with the 60-acre property. The city itself is looking to intensify the Steeles/Main/Hurontario Area with new commercial and mid and high rise residential.

What we will likely see is high rise and retail/commercial development (along with public space) on the south and east sides, facing Main and Steeles, with an expanded Kaneff Park and new community facilities (such as a library) in the middle/west, with medium density residential on the north side, tapering to the low density residential on the north side of Charolais.

It will be a staged development, in order to preserve some retail functions all the way through.

There will likely be a zoning application in September when more details are decided.

It reminds me of the consultation that took place with Galleria Mall, but for a much larger site. It’s good to see the property owner and the city collaborating on this.

 

[Northern Light]

I went to the meeting. There were a few boards to look at, a presentation, followed by table discussions (which I did not stay for).

RioCan is early in the game, with only some ideas of what to do with the 60-acre property. The city itself is looking to intensify the Steeles/Main/Hurontario Area with new commercial and mid and high rise residential.

What we will likely see is high rise and retail/commercial development (along with public space) on the south and east sides, facing Main and Steeles, with an expanded Kaneff Park and new community facilities (such as a library) in the middle/west, with medium density residential on the north side, tapering to the low density residential on the north side of Charolais.

It will be a staged development, in order to preserve some retail functions all the way through.

There will likely be a zoning application in September when more details are decided.

It reminds me of the consultation that took place with Galleria Mall, but for a much larger site. It’s good to see the property owner and the city collaborating on this.

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@ShonTron was clearly the youngest person at the meeting!

 

[ShonTron]

@ShonTron was clearly the youngest person at the meeting!

I wasn't! But, like so many community consultations, the crowd was much whiter and older that the community itself.

 

[Northern Light]

Article on the meeting:

Could Shoppers World Become Brampton's New Downtown?

A recent public meeting hosted by the property manager RioCan on the future of Shoppers World in A recent public meeting hosted by the property manager RioCan on the future of Shoppers World in Brampton could be the first step in transforming the long standing mall into a new mixed use community...

www.inbrampton.com

Contains a few pics, which I think are 'inspiration' for the 5 neighbourhoods that is the working concept.

Pics from Inbrampton.

 

[ShonTron]

More details!

Accela Citizen Access

There's an open house on Tuesday evening. The whole mall would eventually come down, with an enlarged Kaneff Park, with new community uses and a library branch in the centre, along with some office space, with retail facing Steeles and Main Street (with room for large-format retailers), with most parking underground. While 155 townhouses are planned for the north side (towards existing low-density subdivisions), the majority of new residential units will be in 4725 units in residential towers, up to 28 storeys high.

It calls for a grid road system: two new north-south streets, two east-west public streets, plus several private lanes.Multi-use paths are planned as well.

Transit access is good: the Hurontario LRT, the 502 and 511 Zum buses, and reconsideration of the LRT to Downtown Brampton and the GO Train with a more progressive council. Here are some of the plans and renderings. I can't believe that this could be Brampton.

Red = retail, yellow = residential, light blue = community uses, purple = offices.

Looking south:

Looking north from Steeles

 

[JasonParis]

I'd make fun of Brampton a little less if this happened.

 

[kade1064]

I Have Old Pictures of Shoppers World Mall Brampton. This May Be The Mall's Last Year, So Here Is A Throwback

 

[kade1064]

And The Bay

 

[kade1064]

is their any update with the mall, if it's going to shutdown or not?

 

[kade1064]

Shoppers World Brampton Mall's (Simpsons Area Evolution)

 

[Wm Perkins Bull]

is their any update with the mall, if it's going to shutdown or not?

The mall is to be redeveloped in phases, it likely will continue to exist at least in chunks for potentially decades, depending on how RioCan assesses market absorption of product and profitability

 

[ShonTron]

The redevelopment is going through the approval process. Staff are recommending approval of the necessary zoning changes to allow for the complete redevelopment. Expansion of the existing Kaneff Park (a somewhat neglected park between two sets of highrise towers) is planned, with discussions well underway with city, library, and Peel DSB staff on a community hub.

Lots of information in section 7.4 of the November 16 Planning and Development Committee agenda:

 

[jayme2016]

It's kind of sad what is happening to the older malls in Ontario i understand why it's happening but it's still sad to see.