Toronto Scarborough Town Centre Redevelopment | ?m | 65s | Oxford Properties | BDP Quadrangle

oresama said:
is it safe to assume there will be no Simons on the east side then?
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I have no unique insight here; except to say, the current footprint does not suggest an appropriate space for them; and I hear they are seriously looking at downtown; and will probably kick Yorkdale around at some point, because every fashion retailer does.
 
As I predicted
Winners will be occupying the massive empty space where Gap and other stores used to be. No news if it’ll be Winners/HomeSense yet, just saw a Winners sign
 
IKEA is now closing down. Decathlon is gone. HBC is gone. Cineplex is aging. Could be beginning of the end for STC as a mall.
 
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JBR said:
IKEA is now closing down. Decathlon is gone. HBC is gone. Cineplex is aging. Good be beginning of the end for STC as a mall.
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I saw the beginning of the end for Morningside Mall which like STC was at one time a bustling mall. This is not the same.

STC is the only major mall in Scarborough and does draw a significant amount of business but having said that Markville is bleeding the mall dry. If Markville was closer, I would go there. They have a better selection of goods than STC.

You are correct though about placed like Cineplex. I remember when they were building that theatre and going to see My Favourite Martian there when it first opened but the era of theatres is slowly dying. If not for the indian films, that theatre would not survive.
 
Richard White said:
I saw the beginning of the end for Morningside Mall which like STC was at one time a bustling mall. This is not the same.

STC is the only major mall in Scarborough and does draw a significant amount of business but having said that Markville is bleeding the mall dry. If Markville was closer, I would go there. They have a better selection of goods than STC.

You are correct though about placed like Cineplex. I remember when they were building that theatre and going to see My Favourite Martian there when it first opened but the era of theatres is slowly dying. If not for the indian films, that theatre would not survive.
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Cineplex once had a plan to build a new theatre which included some VIP screens in the parking lot outside the current ikea, then that fizzled when the 3 stop subway came back to life.
 
JBR said:
IKEA is now closing down. Decathlon is gone. HBC is gone. Cineplex is aging. Could be beginning of the end for STC as a mall.
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Maybe foot traffic isn't translating into spending, but if we are going by foot traffic alone, the mall appears to be supremely healthy. Many evenings you can't even find a seat in the food court. IKEA might have just been a bad fit for this mall profile.
 
EllaW said:
Maybe foot traffic isn't translating into spending, but if we are going by foot traffic alone, the mall appears to be supremely healthy. Many evenings you can't even find a seat in the food court. IKEA might have just been a bad fit for this mall profile.
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Interestingly enough, prior to the IKEA store opening their was an IKEA design store. The locations where you plan your design and order to your house.
 
JBR said:
IKEA is now closing down. Decathlon is gone. HBC is gone. Cineplex is aging. Could be beginning of the end for STC as a mall.
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Nope.

Oxford is the owner here, they are deep pocketed; the mall still has good traffic and discussions are ongoing to fill the vacant spaces.

I say this as someone who wouldn't mind seeing it torn down as I hate the mess it makes of the area street grid, and the focus on indoor shopping vs animated streets.

But not everyone shares my preferences; and this mall is nowhere near a closure.

There's a long list of properties further up that list, most of which are still clinging on for now.
 
Northern Light said:
Nope.

Oxford is the owner here, they are deep pocketed; the mall still has good traffic and discussions are ongoing to fill the vacant spaces.

I say this as someone who wouldn't mind seeing it torn down as I hate the mess it makes of the area street grid, and the focus on indoor shopping vs animated streets.

But not everyone shares my preferences; and this mall is nowhere near a closure.

There's a long list of properties further up that list, most of which are still clinging on for now.
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I’m just curious what they could even fill the spaces with. 2 levels of Sears and 3 levels of HBC now vacant. Move the outdoor stores inside? Tear down those giant box store spaces? Cineplex retrofit one of them for themselves and tear down the current Cineplex?
 
JBR said:
I’m just curious what they could even fill the spaces with. 2 levels of Sears and 3 levels of HBC now vacant. Move the outdoor stores inside? Tear down those giant box store spaces? Cineplex retrofit one of them for themselves and tear down the current Cineplex?
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There's a limited amount I can say.

One of the two boxes is likely to say mostly intact give or take some change in appearance and probably a small subdivision. The other will likely be subject to a more robust re-work.
 
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