Toronto Pearson International Airport

[allabootmatt]

Air Transat is flying nonstop to *Nimes*? In November? That's quite a niche.

 

[PL1]

That Air Transat flight to Nimes just took off (~20:30h)

 

[allabootmatt]

That Air Transat flight to Nimes just took off (~20:30h)
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Perhaps a charter of die-hard bullfighting fans.

 

[Tim MacDonald]

MRO flight or positioning for a sub charter?

 

[Jonny5]

One thing I found is Nimes is hosting a France Tourism convention on the 24th and the 25th.

Could be a charter flight for Canadians in the business that's a junket to go there and be wined and dined so they setup more trips to France, as we have lots of people looking for places to go on vacations that are not to the USA. That's all right up AirTransat's alley and their travel agent partners.

 

[6ixGod]

Interestingly, both Qantas and Singapore served YYZ in the past. Singapore ran 747-400s a couple of times a week starting in June of 1991 through Europe. I know one was via Amsterdam but I can't recall if the other was Frankfurt or Vienna. It didn't last long after Air Canada whined. AC had also served Singapore starting in 1985 for a period of time using L1011s on a YYZ-LHR-BOM-SIN with local traffic rights out of London. I think SQ were gone from YYZ by 1993 at the latest.

Qantas ran 767s in 2000. If I recall it was the same type of service that Canadian ran on the YYZ-HNL-SYD but I'm not 100 percent sure on the routing. I think that may have ended in 2001 either before 9/11 or as a result.

Here's a shot of Singapore It was just a dirty scan from a 35mm slide that I took while working at T3. I need to find the slide tray holding this slide so I can look at the date.
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That I did NOT know....interesting!

I wonder if we'll see a resumption of Toronto-Sydney flights via HNL at some point. Although I recall during the COVID lockdowns, AC ran special non-stop flights from YYZ to Sydney to pick up stranded Canadians.

 

[allabootmatt]

Very few airlines are starting new one-stop routes anymore, and many have disappeared. With most global carriers most of the time, it's now nonstop or nothing.

One exception is that Qantas has begun Sydney-Auckland-JFK. A SYD-NYC nonstop is supposedly coming, but will require a (probably very expensive) sub-fleet of ultra-long-range A350s.

Until the next generation of aircraft arrives sometime in the 2030s, it may be impossible to justify this kind of route except where there's massive business-class demand, as there is with NYC. Toronto would be in the next tier of potential destinations, but it might just not have the juice.

 

[Tim MacDonald]

That Air Transat flight to Nimes just took off (~20:30h)
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This appears to be heavy maintenance. A sister ship was on the ground there for almost two months:

 

[christiesplits]

Diversion to yyz due to no flap landing. It closed runway 23 for about an hour and change. Originally timmins to billy bishop

Before Porter came to YYZ, I recall them landing at YHM if they were arriving at YTZ after curfew. Has Porter scrapped this now that they have YYZ slots?

 

[rbt]

Saw this today and am assuming that this is a bus connection but may be a diverted flight. Thoughts?

PD9807 (POE9807) Porter Airlines Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track Porter Airlines (PD) #9807 flight from Toronto Pearson Int'l to Toronto City Centre

www.flightaware.com

It was a flight. Could have been any number of reasons the aircraft was at Pearson, from a diversion to aircraft maintenance. AFAIK their Pearson maintenance facility opened in July, mostly for the jets but perhaps they help with backlog on Q400's as well.

 

[rbt]

There's a new TV series on National Geographic called Toronto Airport Uncovered which has an abundance of operations details.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Before Porter came to YYZ, I recall them landing at YHM if they were arriving at YTZ after curfew. Has Porter scrapped this now that they have YYZ slots?

They could technically move to YYZ, but YYZ also has curfews of their own that have to be managed by Toronto Ops that runs Porter for either airport. I wonder if even though YHM is further out of the way, it's easier to have them land there because they have a procedure already in place. It is a good question though.

I wonder what it's like for their transborder flights. I've managed transborder flight ops for an undisclosed airline at one point and there were some circumstances where the passengers were already on the aircraft and they had to get the plane going even though it was MX. MX came, fixed the issue, but the plane ended up arriving way past the curfew time. Up to the point where i had to put in the request from airline ops from their HQ, and YYZ. Not my fav thing to do, but once that information is exchanged, they call our HQ and deal with it that way.

 

[Tim MacDonald]

Before Porter came to YYZ, I recall them landing at YHM if they were arriving at YTZ after curfew. Has Porter scrapped this now that they have YYZ slots?

Nothing to do with slots but everything to do with ground handling and MX. Since there is now a Porter jet operation at YYZ, they have contracts in place.

 

[Woodbridge_Heights]

Before Porter came to YYZ, I recall them landing at YHM if they were arriving at YTZ after curfew. Has Porter scrapped this now that they have YYZ slots?

Porter operates out of both Hamilton YHM and Toronto YYZ. So I'd assume any diversion from YTZ would head to whichever one of YHM/YYZ had the capacity to accept the aircraft and which would cause the least amount of disruption to the fight operations.