karledice
Senior Member
Oops, 2028, not 28th lol
Toronto Park Lawn GO Station | 14.41m | 2s | First Capital | Hatch
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torontowest91
Active Member
3 years away and nothing started yet (right?) probably 2030 now
Was it not supposed to originally open in 2026? stuff takes way too long here
karledice
Senior Member
Public transportation projects are as slow as molasses here. Look at that Eglinton line.
If this was Japan this whole thing would have been done within 9 months
If this was Japan this whole thing would have been done within 9 months
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Northern Light
Superstar
Really?
You mean like the new subway line in Tokyo that will serve the Bay area........the one announced back in 2022.....and is contemplated to open in 2040?
Tokyo Rinkai Subway Line - Wikipedia
Oh....that's only one example you say......fair enough.
So you must have meant the Fukutoshin Line that was planned beginning in 1972 and saw full revenue service in 2008! (opened in stages beginning in 1994)
Tokyo Metro Fukutoshin Line - Wikipedia
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Lets tone down the fantasy stuff please.
Aplus23
Active Member
Are there examples of transit infrastructure projects completed relatively quickly in Japan? Where is the OP getting that fallacy from then?Really?
You mean like the new subway line in Tokyo that will serve the Bay area........the one announced back in 2022.....and is contemplated to open in 2040?
Tokyo Rinkai Subway Line - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Oh....that's only one example you say......fair enough.
So you must have meant the Fukutoshin Line that was planned beginning in 1972 and saw full revenue service in 2008! (opened in stages beginning in 1994)
Tokyo Metro Fukutoshin Line - Wikipedia
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Lets tone down the fantasy stuff please.
reinventingthewheel
Active Member
Well certainly, however you need only one example to disprove his subtext that every project gets done quick in Japan.
Northern Light
Superstar
I can't speak to what the op is aware of or not.
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I am unaware of any 9 month underground subway line projects in Japan, but perhaps I missed that.
There is a well known, very impressive renovation of an outdoor station, that was completed in 52 hours.
That was done by having all the design complete, all the materials stocked and ready to go, and then deploying 3,300 workers to that single project, working non-stop over the work period.
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11th
Senior Member
Japan excels at work to minimise inconveniences; think track switchovers, repairing sinkholes.
You see those being done in hours.
Building new train lines is something they take their time. Example, their newer shinkansen lines.
torontowest91
Active Member
I'm am sure some things in China got done very quickly - but their government system is ran a little different than here.
rbt
Senior Member
Indeed. They put a lot of effort into preventing interruptions to service; but those complex 2-day work periods still take many years to design and prepare for.
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rbt
Senior Member
China rarely announces a project before it is fully designed and ready to begin construction. That makes the timeline appear much shorter. In the background are national design teams churning out dozens of 90% plans and submitting them for consideration for construction.
If Metrolinx worked that way, Ontario would currently be preparing to announce a [shallow] Yonge line extension for the first time.
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Fil111
New Member
Will this GO station get built even if the condo towers don't go up? With the slowdown in purchasing preconstruction condos, I worry that even the first few buildings will have a tough time selling out and that may delay the GO station.
Sunnyside
Senior Member
I imagine a lot of this project will switch to rental in the near-term, and the rest will remain condos when the time comes. Rental is now lucrative, but it has also been in demand for some time. This is a convenient out that projects did not have in previous downturns, afaik.
The residential market in Toronto is in a slump, but it will return. Every massive redev-master- plan in the city is is operating on a timescale of 10+ years, often banking on transit that isn’t there yet either. If nothing else, southern Etobicoke/HBS remains a desirable area and won’t fall off like proposals in less “proven” areas.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Building condos takes years and years to build. Longer than the years one spends in high school and university.
Fil111
New Member
This makes me wonder when the station would realistically be built. Im assuming it would be built the same time as those first few condos.