UrbanFervour
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The rendering is cool - but I'm willing to bet this will end up being another sprawling, dreary, car-centric suburb if it gets built.
I don't know about the rest but Oakville has cranes everywhere these days. Brantford, Cobourg and Stratford are pretty far from Toronto to attract as many people as a place like Innisfil and other than Cobourg none of those sit on a lake.I agree. This is why new greenfield developments almost always fail to meet their vision and objective. The rendering looks fancy but this will be purely residential. Why would someone want to live in a high rise that is at least a 90 min train ride to a major city? There is nothing there. Also, having all new buildings don't encourage or allow for diversity of uses so everything is new housing. Cornell is a good example of failed new urbanism. There is nothing urban in that community. It's a more dense but still car-dependent sprawl.
If the government really wanted to eliminate sprawl we have hundreds of communities in southern Ontario that have been hollowed out and could use an injection of new life/development that have existing and under-utilized services. For example, why aren't we growing communities like Brantford, or Cobourg, or Stratford or any others that are on existing train lines have good bones that can support growth. Heck, even our existing GTA suburbs are highly car-dependent sprawl and can use more investment to densify them. Places like Newmarket, Aurora, Oakville come to mind.
I agree. This is why new greenfield developments almost always fail to meet their vision and objective. The rendering looks fancy but this will be purely residential. Why would someone want to live in a high rise that is at least a 90 min train ride to a major city? There is nothing there. Also, having all new buildings don't encourage or allow for diversity of uses so everything is new housing. Cornell is a good example of failed new urbanism. There is nothing urban in that community. It's a more dense but still car-dependent sprawl.
If the government really wanted to eliminate sprawl we have hundreds of communities in southern Ontario that have been hollowed out and could use an injection of new life/development that have existing and under-utilized services. For example, why aren't we growing communities like Brantford, or Cobourg, or Stratford or any others that are on existing train lines have good bones that can support growth. Heck, even our existing GTA suburbs are highly car-dependent sprawl and can use more investment to densify them. Places like Newmarket, Aurora, Oakville come to mind.
I would say it looks 'interesting' in the Le Corbusier manner of admiring geometrical patterns from a god's eye view above. From a livability standpoint, the urban design looks like it will fail. Windswept open areas with a big arterial running through the heart of the community.The rendering is cool - but I'm willing to bet this will end up being another sprawling, dreary, car-centric suburb if it gets built.
I share the concerns but want to see some more detailed plans before rendering a judgement. Right now it's just a couple of very high level renderings.I would say it looks 'interesting' in the Le Corbusier manner of admiring geometrical patterns from a god's eye view above. From a livability standpoint, the urban design looks like it will fail. Windswept open areas with a big arterial running through the heart of the community.
OT: The last post he made here was a sticky notice looking for an assistant editor. I guess he was looking for a replacement for himself...Another BlogTO article by a familiar face:
https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-...city-outside-toronto-one-step-closer-reality/
@someMidTowner, are you just freelancing for them, or have you made a permanent move to the dark side?
I agree. This is why new greenfield developments almost always fail to meet their vision and objective. The rendering looks fancy but this will be purely residential. Why would someone want to live in a high rise that is at least a 90 min train ride to a major city? There is nothing there. Also, having all new buildings don't encourage or allow for diversity of uses so everything is new housing. Cornell is a good example of failed new urbanism. There is nothing urban in that community. It's a more dense but still car-dependent sprawl.
If the government really wanted to eliminate sprawl we have hundreds of communities in southern Ontario that have been hollowed out and could use an injection of new life/development that have existing and under-utilized services. For example, why aren't we growing communities like Brantford, or Cobourg, or Stratford or any others that are on existing train lines have good bones that can support growth. Heck, even our existing GTA suburbs are highly car-dependent sprawl and can use more investment to densify them. Places like Newmarket, Aurora, Oakville come to mind.
According to Tim Cane, Orbit Director for the Town of Innisfil, the developer, Cortel Group, and Metrolinx have agreements in place to advance construction of the GO station with a ground-breaking in 2022. He said the town expects to see designs in early in 2022 and that the MZO issued by the province has helped the process.
New capital so that Toronto can split into a new province. (Although maybe Tunney's Pasture would be more economical.)The new capital of Ontario because of how much he hates Downtown Toronto?