I do kind of understand they don't want to commit to "yes we will make it better" if it turns out to be an engineering nightmare to actually do so. But I do agree that what has been proposed is far from ideal and any reasonable opportunity to do better should be taken.I had reached out to the Ontario Line team highlighting my concern over the super deep transfer station between Line 1 and the OL at Queen. Here is the response I got from them today:
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It doesn't give me a lot of confidence that they would make the transfer better, though. It's not a concrete "yes, it will be changed". Also, the decision for station depth is one of the first things that will have to be decided as the TBMs route and depth needs to be confirmed before tunneling begins.
I do kind of understand they don't want to commit to "yes we will make it better" if it turns out to be an engineering nightmare to actually do so. But I do agree that what has been proposed is far from ideal and any reasonable opportunity to do better should be taken.
Also the stations are not going to be shallower, regardless of whatever method they use to move people between platforms. There is simply too much built around Queen St in this area to go any shallower without it interfering with building foundations, the existing subways tunnels, etc. All of which would require a massive increase in cost to deal with, which lets be real, makes that a non-starter. The best we can hope for is fewer separate sets of stairs and escalators, or ideally, multiple high speed elevators.
Some of the early works for the RER (like widening the embankment and building bridges) is already underway. Probably more so than the Ontario Line right now.
you could find it somewhere on a few documents but it has to do with the incline up to the surface at the don yard. also because its already like a 5 minute walk from the distillery anywayI can't remember....has Metrolinx already provided a written response on the technical/logistical rationale for why a Distillery District station would be difficult and expensive?
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Glass half full. Glass half empty. This is the half empty view.It's great that Finch and the crosstown are coming in the next two years. Its a shame nothing will be done the rest of the decade.
It's not like we can't infill a station. North York Centre.A station at Cherry is difficult because the line goes from elevated to very deep in bedrock within a kilometer, which requires a long and steep descent just where the station would have to be. But it could be done. They have chosen not to, and are kind of saying it's too hard. It's really just kind of too expensive.
not necesserily. It really depends on how steep it is. A bigger concern is if they leave in a 100m long piece of track to have a straight enough platform.no i dont think we can, the platform has to be level right? so the constant incline means it shouldnt happen
I think at this stage, we are at 10% design. Design a flat station length section in if the budget for the station isn’t there. Future-proof a several billion dollar investment.no i dont think we can, the platform has to be level right? so the constant incline means it shouldnt happen