steveve
Senior Member
Yeah... good point, but i just find that the plaza is not as artistic anymore and not as people friendly. It has more of an office tower tone now rather than an entertainment...
The tower itself has always been nice!
Toronto Hullmark Centre | 167.94m | 45s | Tridel | Kirkor Architects
Yeah... good point, but i just find that the plaza is not as artistic anymore and not as people friendly. It has more of an office tower tone now rather than an entertainment...
The tower itself has always been nice!
Traynor
Senior Member
Agreed... But only because it's Yonge and Sheppard.
However, I wish the shape of new One Bloor will incorporate a small plaza like Hullmark will, WITH VIDEO SCREENS! Because it's more downtowny and that area needs it. Major intersections should have a more open feel to them in my opinion... Like some of the squares/circles in New York or London.
alklay
Senior Member
If the city has less video screens with advertising, we all win.
steveve
Senior Member
Yeah i know!... the original design of 1BE incorporated a podium covered with tv screens... I HOPE great gulf homes considers adding a plaza + tv's for their project!
Old 1BE:
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Superstar
But, but, however will we get our Live Breaking News?
urbandreamer
recession proof
^Via our twitter feeds. These large outdoor screens will become obsolete, thank god.
BMO
Senior Member
I actually really like video screens for advertisement and what not, it makes the area feel important...important enough to waste money on advertisement i guess haha
Mike in TO
Senior Member
Re: Video Screens
Solaris, this was not a case of cheapening the product. It is my understanding that Tridel made changes to the podium and removed the screens due to pressures that arose through the public consultation and planning process.
Solaris, this was not a case of cheapening the product. It is my understanding that Tridel made changes to the podium and removed the screens due to pressures that arose through the public consultation and planning process.
khris
Senior Member
That's disappointing. I prefer the old version with the screens. The new one just looks so plain, and not as grand as it felt with the advertising.
Traynor
Senior Member
Even Sans Video Screens, my point was... I like the open area at the base of Hullmark and I feel it should be mandated on all major intersections. I find Toronto's streets are narrow enough... They should open up when you get to an intersection.
Although most forumers on these sites seem to be fans of podia (yes, that's the plural of podium), I feel we are overdoing it with larger and larger podia. My biggest fear would be a street corner like Yonge and Sheppard or Bloor and Yonge, with four podia the size of Maple Leaf Square!
Personally, I'm thankful for the "Towers in the Park" of the TD Centre at King and Bay. I'm not advocating this for every building (A proper sized podium has its place) just for the major intersections. After a the hustle and bustle of a busy street canyon, you need to step into an intersection and breathe, look around, appreciate the city view and then proceed to your destination.
That's just how I would like my city to be.
Although most forumers on these sites seem to be fans of podia (yes, that's the plural of podium), I feel we are overdoing it with larger and larger podia. My biggest fear would be a street corner like Yonge and Sheppard or Bloor and Yonge, with four podia the size of Maple Leaf Square!
Personally, I'm thankful for the "Towers in the Park" of the TD Centre at King and Bay. I'm not advocating this for every building (A proper sized podium has its place) just for the major intersections. After a the hustle and bustle of a busy street canyon, you need to step into an intersection and breathe, look around, appreciate the city view and then proceed to your destination.
That's just how I would like my city to be.
CityPlaceN1
Senior Member
Actually I think this building has an amazing podium. Good height and mixed use makes it two thumbs up for me.
Therion
Senior Member
Do we really need more advertising bombarding us every day? I'm glad the screens are gone. And If I want breaking news, I'll look it up on my phone.
Traynor
Senior Member
I'm not saying Video is good or bad but it is debatable bout the MORE aspect. If you look at street views along Yonge street between 1910 and 1950 there was WAAAAY more print advertising covering almost every flat surface of every building. We forget that the visual bombardment diminished for the later half of the 20th century. So we think this is the way it always was. But this is not a new phenomenon, just a resurgence and new media to do it with.
There are great threads like the "Then and Now" thread that has pictures from the Toronto Archives that demonstrate my point.
From "then and Now" thread page 155:
Yonge and Shuter 1912
Yonge and Bloor 1938
Not sure where or when...?
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mastershake
New Member
I was chatting with Councillor Filion about this project a few weeks ago, and he said that the developers were pushing hard to have video screens on this project. He was very against video screens and his reason was "Yonge and sheppard is not yonge and dundas"
khris
Senior Member
I think Mel Lastman would argue that to the death