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Eastgate Square Submit First Concepts for Redevelopment, Including a 42-Storey Tall Building

The first early concept proposes 5,162 residential units spread among eight mid-rise buildings and five tall buildings. Over 9,000 people will live in the new development.
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Preliminary planning documents have been released for the redevelopment of the Eastgate Square mall in Hamilton. This will be directly adjacent to the terminal station for the LRT. Most of the existing mall would be retained, with the long vacant old Sears box demolished and redeveloped.

16 development blocks, with buildings of up to 42 storeys in height. The first few sites are pre-zoned and could proceed fairly quickly, with existing as-of-right zoning for up to 20 storeys already in place. A total of 5,162 units are proposed.


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innsertnamehere said:

Eastgate Square Submit First Concepts for Redevelopment, Including a 42-Storey Tall Building

The first early concept proposes 5,162 residential units spread among eight mid-rise buildings and five tall buildings. Over 9,000 people will live in the new development.
www.thepublicrecord.ca www.thepublicrecord.ca

Preliminary planning documents have been released for the redevelopment of the Eastgate Square mall in Hamilton. This will be directly adjacent to the terminal station for the LRT. Most of the existing mall would be retained, with the long vacant old Sears box demolished and redeveloped.

16 development blocks, with buildings of up to 42 storeys in height. The first few sites are pre-zoned and could proceed fairly quickly, with existing as-of-right zoning for up to 20 storeys already in place. A total of 5,162 units are proposed.


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I'm completely fine w/this scale of intensification here, but I'm not keen on keeping most of the old mall.

The east-west dimension of this site is ~380M that's just too large for a contiguous block unless there's one incredibly compelling reason, and the residual Eastgate Square ain't it.

But a material portion of the mall would have to be removed to support even one new North-south street through the entire site.

I'd really like to see one of the E-W roads line up w/what is now the E-W branch of Oakland (it really should get a different name from N-S road there).

Although not on the developer's property, I'd like to see the N-S portion of Oakland pushed through to Queenston and an opening made to provide access to Sam Moss Park from the west.
 
I'm happy to see the towers proposed with rectangular floor-plates instead of square ones, and am wondering if they are 750m² like in Toronto. I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with the square ones based on how bad so many of the suite layouts are, and believe that you generally get more livable layouts with rectangular plates as suites typically don't have to go so deep in the building... so good!

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Chris R. said:
This development was discussed far more heavily on SSP, but I've been focusing on posting here more than there. Do you know @innsertnamehere if the application for subdivision was approved?

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A bit of google-fu shows this, current to Dec' 23:

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A bit more gets me this:

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From: https://www.hamilton.ca/sites/default/files/2024-01/staging-of-development-report-2024-2026.pdf
 
Branden Simon said:
Going to Planning Committee next week on Dec 3
https://pub-hamilton.escribemeeting...English&Agenda=Merged&Item=27&Tab=attachments

There will be changes to the site plan and there will be a lot of 3-storey townhouses and 16-20-storey residential buildings.


There hasn’t been updates on the rendering changes for the Eastgate redevelopment project.
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The project website has some renders............the quality leaves something to be desired.

Home | Eastgate Square

www.evolvingeastgate.ca www.evolvingeastgate.ca

That site has links to all the docs......this one features some of the renders:


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There are no Arch. Plans at this point.

Of note is that the plans now feature an HSR bus terminal.

@innsertnamehere shall provide insightful commentary. Including the curious move to have the majority of the concept buildings top out at 20s.
 
It's hard to imagine all of this fitting on that property - especially when they'll be leaving part of the mall and also adding a road in the middle of it.
But I'm sure they've done some measurements. ;)

In any case, this will be a nice addition and the extra density is welcome. Hopefully it comes to fruition.
 
Wow so the majority of the towers are all 20's now!? The density is still amazing but I was just hoping for 2 or 3 to be much taller for visual interest.
 
They got some interesting tower shapes along queenston here

and those can definitely all fit - the amt of land there being unused is massive.. kinda wish they could actually build on top of the mall to add even more density but that'd be an architectural nightmare most likely and cost much more than to just build around it..

I like those arches at the top of the tower on the northwest towers in the back there..

I don't think they will ever demolish the mall - our climate proves that things like center mall don't really work well compared to say california - we still appreciate our indoor malls. This very much has square one vibes to it.
 
I hope that a development like this will one day be in the works for Centre Mall. It could be a great place for a high density TOD with a new platform for GO trains on the CN line, and could really help bring more foot traffic to the Barton/Kenilworth business corridors.
 
Oddly Oaktree said:
I hope that a development like this will one day be in the works for Centre Mall. It could be a great place for a high density TOD with a new platform for GO trains on the CN line, and could really help bring more foot traffic to the Barton/Kenilworth business corridors.
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Don't think they're gonna touch center mall again for a while.. probably can't justify it after all the money they spent "redeveloping" it. For me it feels like such a waste of parking space.. and overreliance on cars, no pedestrian walkability, and our northern weather doesn't make for a fun experience navigating it.

I do miss the theatre that used to be behind it - that was one of the only reasons I went to that region as a kid. That area of barton is still.. rough.

Also keep in mind the above blueprint still requires the demolishing of all the old department store blocks - the majority of the mall is still being demolished. No food court - basically just the new entrance they built and fortinos would remain.

What a change from when it first opened. Ironically after demolition there would be absolutely no original part of the mall left except for the little part that connects the main entrance to fortinos, where laura secord is.
 
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