old boy
Senior Member
"At least average" doesn't cut it.
Toronto Daniels Waterfront - City of the Arts | 156.05m | 45s | Daniels | RAW Design
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"At least average" doesn't cut it.
raptor
Senior Member
Seriously, why? Not every building has to be a masterpiece.
maestro
Senior Member
The window wall is not average. It's hideous. The only hope is the ubiquitous wrap around balcony curtain glass covers up as much of it as possible.
Jowblow333333
Active Member
If the final version look the same as the one in the presentation, it is totally fine to me and I actually like it, beauty of simplicity.
TheSix
Active Member
The finished product is looking very close to the model, however this is the extent of our agreement. Cheap looking and poorly planned window wall full of mullions does not equate to "simplicity". In fact, it is quite the opposite.
A real shame considering the excellent work they did to the immediate south.
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Jowblow333333
Active Member
I don't have problem with it at all. Definition of simplicity is differ from person to person. I actually like it !!
buildup
Senior Member
Having already agreed the south building is well above average, you want every building to be above average? That's hard to do, mathematically.
As Jordan Peterson would say, clean your room before you tear everything else down
Or as I would say, it would be great if Daniels, who have bestowed millions on a school of architecture school in this backwater, would then respect architects just enough that their training wasn't then mocked by having their work wrapped in the cheapest, tackiest cladding available for bulk purchase.
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ADRM
Senior Member
There's also a difference between elegant simplicity (hello, Mies) and atrocious simplicity. I'm generally a less-is-more kinda guy in terms of my architectural preferences, but this is most certainly not a representation of that; it's just shit.
condovo
Senior Member
And given the tower's prominent, waterfront location--Toronto's front door, so to speak--I think many of us aspire to more than just 'average' here.
Jowblow333333
Active Member
Apparently, it is still a SOLD OUT project. People perceive things differently.
ADRM
Senior Member
Aesthetic quality and the state of sales are almost completely unrelated.
Jowblow333333
Active Member
I personally disagree, buyers saw the models in the presentation center and they signed and sealed the deal. And, there are "hundreds" of buyers see things differently. Would you buy a car that look like a piece of shxt ?
ADRM
Senior Member
You're assuming you know the motives behind purchasers; every ugly building you see in the city, by definition, had sufficient sales to be built, but that doesn't mean every purchaser thought the building was pretty (or even cared to think about it).
TheSix
Active Member
Question, are you a real estate agent or a purchaser in this development? I am only asking because your argument lacks architectural or urban planning credibility, which is the bases of this forum, not defining success on sales.