Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[BurlOak]

I wish. If I were hired, I would be tracking the movement of the TBMs each day.

If I were hired I would release the "secret" report that says that elevated transit was the preferred option. I would also look around and try to find that Memo from Transportation Minister Wynne that told Metrolinx to bury the report since they wanted to go in a different direction.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Getting to conspiracy levels of hatred about the lack of an elevated LRT here I see.

 

[Hopkins123]

Glad to know that we're almost two stations in. It's a pity though that such a wide stopless gap exists between Westside Mall and Dufferin.

 

[BurlOak]

Getting to conspiracy levels of hatred about the lack of an elevated LRT here I see.

Just like there are those who believe that Ford has only used illegal drugs once, there are those that believe that politics has not interfered with the transit decisions made by Metrolinx.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

If I were hired I would release the "secret" report that says that elevated transit was the preferred option. I would also look around and try to find that Memo from Transportation Minister Wynne that told Metrolinx to bury the report since they wanted to go in a different direction.

Getting to conspiracy levels of hatred about the lack of an elevated LRT here I see.

To be fair what BurlOak suggested isn't impossible at all. At one point Metrolinx did suggest elevating Eglinton East and it looks like it may have even been the preferred option among ML staff. The fact that the elevated option wasn't even suggested in any ML report probably suggests that somewhere along the line they were told not to investigate it by one of the higher ups. It's this exact same type of meddling that got the TTC's scathing review of Sheppard's performance buried by politicians at City Hall (before someone leaked it).

The people at ML aren't stupid. ML knew that elevation was an option. The fact that elevation hasn't been given so much as a passing mention in any ML report is not incidental.

 

[Palma]

Glad to know that we're almost two stations in. It's a pity though that such a wide stopless gap exists between Westside Mall and Dufferin.

Well if the stop had actually been at Caledonia or at least 1 entrance (don;t remember if there is one there or not), it is 900 meters between Caledonia and Dufferin along Eglinton. This is walkable. If you live in the middle you would either go to Caledonia or to Dufferin which makes it a 450 metres eitherway. If you then live east of the midway point you walk to the Dufferin stop and if live west of the midway point walk to Caledonia making eitherway less than a 450 metre walk

My parents live off a street that also runs east / west and intersects Dufferin and Caledonia. Its a 7 min walk from Dufferin to the street they live on and if you continue walking about another 8 to 10 min will get you to Caledonia.

 

[innsertnamehere]

There is an entrance on the east side of the rail line IIRC, not directly at Caledonia but close. Its one of those small entrances with a thousand flights of stairs to get to track level though. Caledonia is quite a deep station.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Should Eglinton West be elevated?

 

[innsertnamehere]

I don't think so. The lights are far enough apart that it can easily run like the Calgary LRT. there are 9 lights to the Future Renforth Terminal, 2 of which can probably be eliminated. That makes less than 1 light per km.

 

[ehlow]

Should Eglinton West be elevated?

In my opinion, no. The main advantage of elevated is skipping the traffic lights, however, driving on Eglinton along that route you rarely hit many red lights anyways.

I'd think that the elevated stations would require elevators and escalators, and require TTC staff. A surface stop would be much cheaper, it would be like the St Clair or Spadina stops, a simple shelter with some ticketing machines, no staff required. This seems appropriate since I don't think the stations along Eglinton West will get a huge amount of ridership.

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

I don't think so. The lights are far enough apart that it can easily run like the Calgary LRT. there are 9 lights to the Future Renforth Terminal, 2 of which can probably be eliminated. That makes less than 1 light per km.

In my opinion, no. The main advantage of elevated is skipping the traffic lights, however, driving on Eglinton along that route you rarely hit many red lights anyways.

I'd think that the elevated stations would require elevators and escalators, and require TTC staff. A surface stop would be much cheaper, it would be like the St Clair or Spadina stops, a simple shelter with some ticketing machines, no staff required. This seems appropriate since I don't think the stations along Eglinton West will get a huge amount of ridership.

The Eglinton West bus is busier then Eglinton East right? I think either one would be good. I would prefer surface since that can be built faster and for less cash.

 

[ehlow]

The Eglinton West bus is busier then Eglinton East right? I think either one would be good. I would prefer surface since that can be built faster and for less cash.

While Eglinton West does get higher ridership than Eg East, it's hard to judge on that alone because Lawrence East has a very high ridership and goes on Eglinton until Leslie. A lot of ridership gets on/off between Yonge & Leslie. Several other routes use Eglinton east: Leslie, Leaside, Flemington Park.

The other consideration is: how much of the Eglinton West ridership is on the section between Black Creek & Mississauga, where the west Eglinton extension will be?

I'm not saying there won't be high ridership, just not a huge amount. The stops on that stretch of Yonge don't have a lot around them.

 

[innsertnamehere]

My understanding is that most of Eglinton wests ridership gets on east of Jane.

 

[ehlow]

My understanding is that most of Eglinton wests ridership gets on east of Jane.

My hunch was right then. I have the feeling that the most probable way for the Eglinton West extension to become funded & approved is if it's cheap & fast to construct.

 

[andrewpmk]

My hunch was right then. I have the feeling that the most probable way for the Eglinton West extension to become funded & approved is if it's cheap & fast to construct.

I don't think that low ridership on the western part of the 32 bus really indicates low ridership on the Eglinton line. The 32 bus is a really slow way to get to the employment areas south of the airport, and does not go to the airport terminal. The Eglinton line would be much faster, and given how ridiculous the 401 traffic problems are (caused mostly by large numbers of people going to work near the airport) I think many people will want to use it. If making the line grade separated to double capacity doesn't cost very much why aren't we doing it?