MrGoose
Active Member
Which is why we should've invested in high capacity technologies from the start.
Toronto Crosstown Line 5 West Extension | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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innsertnamehere
Superstar
It's not going to be as busy as many expect. Densities along the line really aren't that high other than at Yonge-Eglinton, and same with employment densities. A lot of the employment density which used to exist around Eglinton and Don Mills has actually be demolished in the last few years.
I suspect LRT tech will operate fine for a while, as Golden Mile gets built out the surface sections may start to be problematic though.
I suspect LRT tech will operate fine for a while, as Golden Mile gets built out the surface sections may start to be problematic though.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Once Line 5 opens, it will get busier with all the construction getting over.
From link. This is with the construction.
Busiest Bus and Streetcar Routes
(Estimated daily usage on average business day)
504 King (streetcar) … 84,000
501 Queen (streetcar) … 55,100
36 Finch West (bus) … 47,300
52 Lawrence West (bus) … 43,900
510 Spadina (streetcar) … 40,000
506 Carlton (streetcar) ... 39,000
32 Eglinton West (bus) … 38,500
512 St Clair (streetcar) ... 35,200
54 Lawrence East (bus) … 33,300
505 Dundas (streetcar) … 32,400
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Steve X
Senior Member
The 32 used to be very busy upwards towards 50k daily ridership. The corridor lost around 25% and the headways were widen over the years cause of that. 5k probably went towards the 52 as a result.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Don't expect to see any MiWay buses heading for Mt. Dennis Station when it opens this year (allegedly). Expect to see transfers to the 32 Eglinton West bus heading to Mt. Dennis Station to increase.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Haven't seen a list of bus stops removals for the 32 Eglinton West. However, I would like to see the addition of bus stops at Keelesdale Road and Eglinton Avenue West. One at the southwest corner on Keelesdale Road, and one at the southeast corner also on Keelesdale Road.
From link.
This is so that passengers, who are not going to the Mt. Dennis Station, could get on or off to use the No Fills store on Keelesdale Road, or use the York Recreation Centre on the southeast corner of Black Creek Drive and Eglinton Avenue West.
From link.
This is so that passengers, who are not going to the Mt. Dennis Station, could get on or off to use the No Fills store on Keelesdale Road, or use the York Recreation Centre on the southeast corner of Black Creek Drive and Eglinton Avenue West.
anb
Active Member
If they had bus terminals and split bus routes into 2 at some of these stations, then ridership wouldn't be an issue. I would say that there wouldn't be a problem anyways because of the lack of transit lines, but considering that this extension would be finished around the same period of when Ontario Line, GO RER and Yonge North, the Eg West would probably appeal to only locals around the area, and there would just be other options such as the mentioned above for all other riders.
I doubt MiWay would go that far unless they would wanna relocate some of the existing routes that go to Kipling to head to Mt Dennis, but even then they would have to go through a significant amount of local Toronto streets to get there which is highly unlikely. There would probably be more MiWay routes heading to Renforth that they have planned when the western extension finally opens instead.
drum118
Superstar
Unless Mississauga is pickup and dropping riders to/from Mount Dennis station, its a huge cost for them doing the current pickup and dropping off in Toronto as well requiring a lot more buses to the route. There is no business case to support any service extension other than what takes place today.
Do agree with a stop at Black Creek, but headway will be hard press to see 10 minute service to the point more like 20/30.
Tuscani01
Senior Member
Looks like the TBMs are just about half way through. This is moving along pretty quickly.
Steve X
Senior Member
Just remember TBMs were done by 2016 on the Crosstown and where are we now. Then again Doug Ford is denying reality when asked about it and pointed to this "great progress".
mossynukes
New Member
great news
toronto647
Active Member
EGLRT is a much more complex project where nothing existed and everything is from scratch. Whereas for the EGWLRT, all the major infrastructure will be in place and "hopefully" will be a smooth transition.
On a side note - pretty funny to think that the EGLRT + EGWLRT as a whole will likely take 20 years to be functional. + Airport Segment 2035 and EG East LRT 2040 perhaps. So 30 ish years to get rapid transit end to end on Eglinton.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
While there is no Eglinton or Allendale station complexities, that is likely the only factor that would reduce the time to deliver. The vehicle maintenance facility was almost the first thing complete so that isn't on the critical path. So if there wasn't Eglinton or Allendale, when would EGLRT have been completed? The difference between the other stations being ready and Eglinton being ready will only be about a year apart. You are still going to need to do the station boxes, all the interior works, the electrical, the signalling, etc. You don't save much.
urbancog
New Member
After ECLRT opens @ Mt. Dennis, TTC could operate a 932 service between Mt. Dennis and Renforth only stopping at future LRT station locations. To provide a faster link between northern Mississauga and North York and to establish travel patterns for the EWLRT.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Unless Toronto's Transportation Department refuses to implement a REAL transit priority signals on the local road traffic signals between the LRT stations. Then the 932 will be behaving like the 32 buses, if they have to stop at the local traffic signals.