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The closest a possible subway extension might come is half a kilometre to the south of Dundas where the CP line crosses the East Mall. That might make Cloverdale one or two bus stops from the subway some far distant future day, but that's it.

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I have lived in the area since 1964. I like this idea. It makes sense to redesign the unused portion of the mall. It maintains the existing businesses on which the neighborhood relies. Thank you for not turning it into yet more condominiums!
 

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^^^Exactly, 100% agreed. There is so much condo density now in south/central Etobicoke that the surrounding infrastructure to support that density is not keeping up. This translates into short term problems but also long term problems that are hard and expensive to fix.

I know Mark Grimes is fighting to keep the business tax dollars sustainable in Etobicoke by supporting businesses and property owners that don't convert their properties to residential.
 

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Curious to see what they have in mind. A shift to an urban form mall/community hub like the Galleria/Dufferin Mall/Humbertown/Yorkdale/Honest Ed's/Loblaws plaza on Roncy would certainly be ideal.
 

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^I'm thinking it may be the start of the food court relocation/expansion that's slated to take place by the former Target space.
 

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QuadReal plans major redevelopment at Cloverdale Mall

QuadReal Property Group has major plans to redevelop its Cloverdale Mall in Toronto into a major mixed-use community if new zoning is approved.

While the 32-acre Cloverdale site, located in Etobicoke, is zoned to permit commercial uses, the Toronto Official Plan designates the site as mixed-use. After months of community consultation, QuadReal plans to apply for a site-specific rezoning in December to permit a range of uses including retail, residential, parks and open spaces.

 

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Wow. So the original proposal with the food hall and stand alone gym is dead. I was wondering what happened to it since it was announced two years ago now and no shovels in the ground.
 

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The preliminary site plan is egregiously bad and overlooks some important items that need to be addressed by this developer, in conjunction w/both the City and the MTO.

In order for this to become a walkable, transit friendly community:

1) The existing interchange w/427 and Dundas needs to be modified to traffic-lit, controlled-intersection w/pedestrian crossings and the acceleration lanes need to be removed.

2)The Dundas and East Mall intersection must be at grade and otherwise regularized with pedestrian crossings and such.

Those 2 elements are the most critical, because they are downright hostile to pedestrians or cyclists.

3)This development as with Sherways Gardens should be linked to Line 2 westward expansion; in conjuntion w/that, one must create a pleasant walk to/from any subway stations. As it stands the walk down East Mall would be profoundly unpleasant to say the least.

4)The densest development should be situated closest to transit, and the main road; I have no problem with green space meeting the main road (good for visibility/safety and access; but it shouldn't be the dominant feature.

From the article linked above at Real Estate News: (very preliminary concept)

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Image of East Mall approaching Dundas: (street view)

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The preliminary site plan is egregiously bad and overlooks some important items that need to be addressed by this developer, in conjunction w/both the City and the MTO.

In order for this to become a walkable, transit friendly community:

1) The existing interchange w/427 and Dundas needs to be modified to traffic-lit, controlled-intersection w/pedestrian crossings and the acceleration lanes need to be removed.

2)The Dundas and East Mall intersection must be at grade and otherwise regularized with pedestrian crossings and such.

Those 2 elements are the most critical, because they are downright hostile to pedestrians or cyclists.

3)This development as with Sherways Gardens should be linked to Line 2 westward expansion; in conjuntion w/that, one must create a pleasant walk to/from any subway stations. As it stands the walk down East Mall would be profoundly unpleasant to say the least.

4)The densest development should be situated closest to transit, and the main road; I have no problem with green space meeting the main road (good for visibility/safety and access; but it shouldn't be the dominant feature.

From the article linked above at Real Estate News: (very preliminary concept)

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Image of East Mall approaching Dundas: (street view)

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Agreed on all counts. The street network in the area needs a major overhaul to make it pedestrian friendly before this proposal should go forward.
 

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The preliminary site plan is egregiously bad and overlooks some important items that need to be addressed by this developer, in conjunction w/both the City and the MTO.

In order for this to become a walkable, transit friendly community:

1) The existing interchange w/427 and Dundas needs to be modified to traffic-lit, controlled-intersection w/pedestrian crossings and the acceleration lanes need to be removed.

2)The Dundas and East Mall intersection must be at grade and otherwise regularized with pedestrian crossings and such.

Those 2 elements are the most critical, because they are downright hostile to pedestrians or cyclists.

3)This development as with Sherways Gardens should be linked to Line 2 westward expansion; in conjuntion w/that, one must create a pleasant walk to/from any subway stations. As it stands the walk down East Mall would be profoundly unpleasant to say the least.

4)The densest development should be situated closest to transit, and the main road; I have no problem with green space meeting the main road (good for visibility/safety and access; but it shouldn't be the dominant feature.

From the article linked above at Real Estate News: (very preliminary concept)

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Image of East Mall approaching Dundas: (street view)

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This image is East Mall South of Dundas. Industrial area.
Cloverdale Mall is on the North side.

Dundas & East Mall and Dundas & HWY 427 ramp are traffic lit intersections. Not very pedestrian friendly, but there are not many pedestrians there.

QuadReal will be hosting the public unveiling of the master redevelopment plan for Cloverdale Mall on Nov. 23 at the Cloverdale Common (250 The East Mall, Toronto near Service Ontario inside the mall). Presentations will run at 12 p.m. and 2 p.m. The company plans to submit a rezoning application to the city in March 2020.

 

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