Pickering 640 Liverpool Road | ?m | 3s | Liverpool Road LP | Cassidy + Company

[Paclo]

640 Liverpool Road: a proposed subdivision of 10 x 3-storey affordable rental, condominium & live/work townhomes designed by Cassidy & Company for Liverpool Road Limited Partnership on the block bound by Liverpool Road to the east, Annland Street to the north and Wharf Street to the south in Pickering's Bay Ridges area.

Conceptual Site Plan:

Renderings from the Planning Rationale:

 

[yoshirocks702]

It appears they added a parcel and changed the development proposal from an earlier version where they lost the LPAT appeal

https://corporate.pickering.ca/WebLink/0/edoc/181859/November%206,%202017.pdf

Pickering Victorious with LPAT Dismissal of Waterfront Development Application

Pickering Victorious with LPAT Dismissal of Waterfront Development Application

www.pickering.ca

 

[Coolibop]

This side of Frenchman's Bay is lacking waterfront trail that either provides views of the waterfront (lake/bay) or on a trail (mostly through residential streets). Don't know if this is even possible, but I asked local staff to see if looking at a small addition to the trail could be added here which would at least preserve continuous the only views of the bay (on the East side) from Progress park just further north of this site along the Bay. The documentation indicates the region actually owns a small sliver of land for sanitary sewer purposes between block 10 and the Outdoor Amenity Area below:

 

[JBR]

This side of Frenchman's Bay is lacking waterfront trail that either provides views of the waterfront (lake/bay) or on a trail (mostly through residential streets). Don't know if this is even possible, but I asked local staff to see if looking at a small addition to the trail could be added here which would at least preserve continuous the only views of the bay (on the East side) from Progress park just further north of this site along the Bay. The documentation indicates the region actually owns a small sliver of land for sanitary sewer purposes between block 10 and the Outdoor Amenity Area below:

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So come off Annland just to go back up to Annland via Liverpool? Why

 

[yoshirocks702]

I think eventually they are going to fix the waterfront trail at Beachfront Park that washed out and re-route it back there

Beachfront Park Revitalization & Needs Assessment Study

The community engagement period is now closed. Please stay tuned for future updates. Pickering’s waterfront has been significantly impacted by major storms and annual high water levels. For these reasons, we need to re-imagine #BeachfrontPark. While our main goal is to

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[Coolibop]

So come off Annland just to go back up to Annland via Liverpool? Why

@yoshirocks702 is correct, the Beachfront Park will be getting an elevated boardwalk with seperate cycle lanes and the trail will divert back down to the beach. In addition, the whole point of the trail is to bring users close to waters edge and not just directions through neighborhoods. If we have an opportunity to include more trail and waterfront then I'm all for it.

It could also be feasible in the distant future to have a trail that circumnavigates along the edges of the bay - Securing a segment now that we're developing (albeit small) is worth it.

 

[JBR]

@yoshirocks702 is correct, the Beachfront Park will be getting an elevated boardwalk with seperate cycle lanes and the trail will divert back down to the beach. In addition, the whole point of the trail is to bring users close to waters edge and not just directions through neighborhoods. If we have an opportunity to include more trail and waterfront then I'm all for it.

It could also be feasible in the distant future to have a trail that circumnavigates along the edges of the bay - Securing a segment now that we're developing (albeit small) is worth it.

I’ll believe it when I see it.
Pickering has been studying how to repave Sandy Beach road for 8 years now, can only imagine how long it’ll take for an elevated boardwalk…

 

[Coolibop]

They've already been taking soul samples along Beachfront last year? and are finishing the washrooms on the Westshore and beach rehab on that side. If memory serves correct, the plan was to start next year (maybe 25) and close one side at a time (starting with the east side) until completion (1-2 years).

As far as Sandy Beach, it just had a recent study completed just prior to covid in 2019 (which started in 2017). As with all projects funding is the key driver and may be why construction hasn't started with all the inflationary costs. Also a couple of infill projects and proposed road extensions along there including clements. Some of the warehouses were vacant so I don't see the rush.

Edit: from the city:
The consultant is currently working on the detail design of the Sandy Beach Road. The proposed road will be designed with curb and gutter and MUP on one side. The City had also issued a purchase order to the Elexicon to relocate the existing poles due to the proposed location of the multi-use-path. The Elexicon is currently working on the design for the poles relocation.

 

[Coolibop]

Couple of revised renderings from the applicant after receiving comments the original wasnt 'high quality'. First is looking north from Wharf with illustration of commercial at grade. Second are units along Wharf looking northwest.

I'm not sure this sticks with a nautical theme...

 

[JBR]

Couple of revised renderings from the applicant after receiving comments the original wasnt 'high quality'. First is looking north from Wharf with illustration of commercial at grade. Second are units along Wharf looking northwest.

I'm not sure this sticks with a nautical theme...
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Very nice towns. Wonder what the price will be. It fits in with the rest of the port area

 

[JBR]

Too add: demolition has started on the site.

 

[Coolibop]

Listened to the meeting; this one was for the official plan amendment... Site plan to follow.

Aside from the usual too high density and traffic complaints... (I laughed when councillor Robinson said we shouldn't pave over paradise (a large part of the site is a gravel parking lot))...

• Mayor made a comment that these will be in the 1.5-2MM range
• One of the houses, demolished a property on site in Nov '23...it had heritage merit but didn't get official designation. My guess is it was demolished before that can of worms was opened... A plaque on site to commemorate is being considered.
• Passed 5-1