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3005 Bloor West 
3005 Bloor Street West, Toronto
Developer: ONE Properties

3005 Bloor West | 33m | 8s | ONE Properties | Turner Fleischer

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  1. ProjectEnd

    ProjectEnd Senior Member

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    No application yet but WAM, now ONE Properties, closed on this for +/- $8m last year. They're targeting a 2019 completion according to their website:

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    Finally, that awful car wash is going. As I recall, it seemed to be for sale for a long time.
     
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    3005 BLOOR ST W
    Ward 05 - Etob. York District

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    Proposed 8 storey mixed use building and a 2 storey single detached residential dwelling.

    Proposed Use --- # of Storeys --- # of Units ---


    Applications:
    Type Number Date Submitted Status
    OPA & Rezoning 17 267906 WET 05 OZ Nov 27, 2017 Under Review
     
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    Architect is Turner Fleischer:
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    upload_2017-12-6_16-33-53.

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  5. ProjectEnd

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    ...and the result is garbage. Funny that.
     
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    • Height and density are above official plan
    • Poor integration with street
    • No neighbourhood amenities
    • Clashes with the neighbouring condo
    The real question is whether they remembered to pay off Di Ciano, since that seems to be the main determinant of success.
     
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    The architecture is pretty horrid, but it's not horrible from a planning perspective. Half of your complaints don't even make much sense. What do you mean by no neighbourhood amenities and it clashing with the neighbouring condo?
     
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    Also, if this building doesn't confirm with height or density guidelines in the OP, the problem is most certainly with the OP.
     
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    No street furniture, no overhang for pedestrians, solid glass wall on 2 sides, extra height looms over the existing condo, cheats on the 45 degree angle rule by adding the extra house.
     
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    Official plan is 6 storeys, not 8. There's also a 10 storey appeal a block away so the precedent will be set for the strip. 6 is an appropriate height for the width of bloor and the size of the neighbourhood - and 6 still allows a ton of extra capacity as the old stores get replaced.
     
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    6 stories is appropriate when the ROW is 20m, this is wider. 8 stories doesn't overwhelm the street like it does for a 20m ROW. The general rule in the mid rise guidelines is height should match the width of the street - a standard 8 floor building comes in right about 27m.
     
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    Considering the "extra" house to be a cheat instead of a rather ingenious transition to the neighbourhood is a characterization that is just grasping at straws. It's their land, and if instead of continuing to terrace what would be an even larger building down to the neighbourhood, they decide to build in a buffer in a local vernacular form—a single family home—that's more of an acknowledgement and strengthening of the neighbourhood context. Good on them.

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    The fact that 6 stories is in the plan for this stretch is the perfect illustration of how dumb the plan is, this site being atop one of two subway lines in the biggest city in a G7 country.

    And the street width-to-height ratio obsession the Planning department has is also completely arbitrary bullshit, and arbitrary bullshit that is accentuated by the fact that many of the "great streets" around the world that the department often touts violate that restriction.

    Our Planning department does some great stuff, but this is a prime example of some of the solidly bad planning that it undertakes.
     
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    What's more, the building on the corner didn't make Great Gulf any money when it was constructed 17 years ago. To expect that 6 would work nowadays is a bit insane.
     
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    6 storeys works well for Paris - streets feel built up but not overwhelming. You could add 1,000 units on that stretch of bloor without exceeding 6 floors - and there's little of architectural relevance to prevent higher density.

    Not being facetious here - would you support a 20 storey tower on the site? 40? At what point do you draw the line on appropriate height for Bloor St, and what's the test you'd use to pick your limit?
     
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