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2 Queen project pivots from restoration to re-creation​


Honestly a pretty interesting article that details how intricate this project is. Just want to pull out the bits about recreating the building and historical accuracy; really seems like they're putting in the effort:

The locations that were so badly damaged through water or whatever other renovations that happened over the years, we were able to find very similar limestone and will be carving matching the lettering on both locations.”

Brick size and mortar joint thicknesses were replicated along with the wood window frame profiles, limestone sills and intricate cornice mouldings.

“We had a brick yard re-create the brick with the colour and we even went down to the minute detail of the thickness of the mortar joints. Our restoration contractor Clifford Masonry spent a few months on the scaffold system, painstakingly hand measuring and sketching brick by brick, window frame by window frame, just so they could get a really accurate account of what was there so it could be recreated with as much diligence as possible.”
 

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In reading the above article, one gains a sympathy for the challenges here.

Between the poor condition of the facade, which they went to great trouble to save, only to have to recreate it; to finding an old bank vault they didn't expect undeground that actually tied into structure and causing them to have to revisit the entire construction plan.

From the article:

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On top of the challenges of positioning the crane for the job, which required reinforcing the parking garage....

The numbers on the project suggest to me, it may not be in the black for a little bit.

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Taken on the whole though, this project again delivers the message that not only can we save our heritage, we can recreate what has been lost; and we should never again accept excuses to the contrary.
 

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2 Queen project pivots from restoration to re-creation​

Great find! Despite the CF record on building 'upgrades', I live in hope!
 

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In reading the above article, one gains a sympathy for the challenges here.

Between the poor condition of the facade, which they went to great trouble to save, only to have to recreate it; to finding an old bank vault they didn't expect undeground that actually tied into structure and causing them to have to revisit the entire construction plan.

From the article:

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On top of the challenges of positioning the crane for the job, which required reinforcing the parking garage....

The numbers on the project suggest to me, it may not be in the black for a little bit.

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Taken on the whole though, this project again delivers the message that not only can we save our heritage, we can recreate what has been lost; and we should never again accept excuses to the contrary.

I like the idea of recreating something that can’t be saved, but is still standing, but not the idea of something that is long gone being recreated unless archival architectural drawings exist. The only way they were able to recreate the facade here is because they were able to study what was left of it to ensure accuracy.

If it’s long demolished, let it go.
 

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I like the idea of recreating something that can’t be saved, but is still standing, but not the idea of something that is long gone being recreated unless archival architectural drawings exist. The only way they were able to recreate the facade here is because they were able to study what was left of it to ensure accuracy.

If it’s long demolished, let it go.

I can't agree.

I want the old Board of Trade Building rebuilt:

(from the Ontario Archives):

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Now that is a way to bookend Berczy Park with the Flat Iron!

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I'm pragmatic enough, we're not rebuilding everything; only that with extraordinary value, and that which can be done practically (ie removing First Canadian Place to rebuild the old Toronto Daily Star building is a non-starter).

But where nothing greater than 10s was built, and it's humdrum and forgettable, let's bring the good stuff back!
 

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I mean, yeah, that would be nice! Find me a developer who wants to pay for it any maybe we'll talk ;)
They do things different in Europe, of course:


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When one Google Street views places like Berlin or Bristol, one'll notice a lot of immaculately preserved elder structures like the ones in the above examples pics, mixed in with wild crazy-arsed newer stuff. It really gives those cities a lot of character and never a dull moment feel. Toronto as a whole, on the other hand, still treats its elder structures as nuisances to a degree that need to be paved over and/or conveniently succumbed to "accidental" fires. And then builds bland spandrel'icious buildings in its wake. We should be ashamed of ourselves, really...

...er, my 2 cents on the matter anywhoose.
 
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When one Google Street views places like Berlin or Bristol, one'll notice a lot of immaculately preserved elder structures like the ones in the above examples pics, mixed in with wild crazy-arsed newer stuff. It really gives those cities a lot of character and never a dull moment feel. Toronto as a whole, on the other hand, still treats its elder structures as nuisances to a degree that need to be paved over and/or conveniently succumbed to "accidental" fires. And then builds bland spandrel'icious buildings in its wake. We should be ashamed of ourselves, really...

...er, my 2 cents on the matter anywhoose.
Personally, I'd like the General Post Office at the head of Toronto Street rebuilt:

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