Toronto 119 Church | 198.15m | 60s | CentreCourt | IBI Group

[Northern Light]

@AlbertC 's discovery now has a formal application in the AIC:

Development Applications

City Planning COA Application Information Center

app.toronto.ca

The complete list of properties assembled is thus:

Which bares a resemblance to a post I made above.

Oh........

And...

* Docs are Up *

Architect is IBI

Material Board:

Planning Report:

Comments: Podium is a miss, needs a re-think. The way the new meets the old does not work for me. The zero residential parking is great, but the incorporation of visitor parking, and loading at-grade and other choices serve to make the lobby far too prominent in this location.

Tower: Too busy, has potential, but needs less going on.....

Heritage: More retention (deeper) on the buildings being retained would desirable, even if only an elevation/facade. South elevation should be preserved or re-built. Treatment of retained facades is off.

Landscape Plan: No new trees, no enhancement to planting conditions of any existing trees, unacceptable.

Missed opportunity:

This laneway space could be made so interesting........old school Toronto brick surface, ivy growing, old-school lighting and/or uplighting of architectural features.

Side Note: City Planning managed to put this one on the map in Weston!

 

[innsertnamehere]

Notably no underground parking and only a handful of spots along the lane. And no balconies. The future!

Also: applications will likely speed up in the next few weeks in advance of the inclusionary zoning deadline in September.

 

[ProjectEnd]

CentreCourt does give me more hope than some others would, but this is waaaaaaaay too busy. I'm hoping it's just a first stab to get an application in, then we see some evolution in the design.

 

[YIMBY519]

I'm glad Henry's is staying in the neighbourhood. I saw a "coming soon" sign in the retail at the base of Fleur at Shuter and Church.

 

[Riseth]

I quite like this. Hopefully it turns out close to those renders.

 

[Logan]

Four elevators for 700 units? Good luck with that.

 

[Koops65]

 

[Transportfan]

Side Note: City Planning managed to put this one on the map in Weston!

There's a reason Markham has a "Main Street Unionville" ! Though even Markham's "downtown" Main Street has "Markham" in the name.

 

[cd concept]

You can see three new towers come into view from this rendering up above in past week. It's a primo setting for a three towers in one flyby video shot! When you have the time thanks lol!

 

[Koops65]

 

[MichaelZ]

Four elevators for 700 units? Good luck with that.

Sometimes retaining heritage facades seems to really impede the internal layout of developments. I'm not sure if that's the case here, but considering it's a small site, that extra setback must have some impact.

 

[Undead]

On the contrary. The vast majority of precon units are bought by investors to rent out (and/or launder money). These people couldn't care less about details like elevators. There's a tendency on UT to significantly overestimate how much attention most people pay to the issues we discuss here.

 

[MichaelZ]

On the contrary. The vast majority of precon units are bought by investors to rent out (and/or launder money). These people couldn't care less about details like elevators. There's a tendency on UT to significantly overestimate how much attention most people pay to the issues we discuss here.

Renters care about elevator density, maybe implicitly because no one likes waiting in long lines, but they definitely care. So it will negatively affect rental prices. Maybe this location can't support premium rental units, but even a shady investor would care somewhat of how much they can rent it out for in the future.

EDIT: Then again one should never underestimate human stupidity, so maybe there are 'investors' like that.

 

[Undead]

No it won't. You're not wrong, but renters have zero leverage in this market. And this has been the case during this entire housing bubble, worsening every year.

Rental vacancy rates are at record lows.

Check out some of the horror stories where tenants with high 5/low 6 figure incomes, good credit scores and being otherwise upstanding citizens were turned away/outbid on renting a basic apartment.

 

[MichaelZ]

Renters have precisely zero leverage in this market.

This is silly hyperbole that we don't need on forum discussion. It's impossible for anyone to have 'precisely zero leverage' in any market, let alone the housing market. Just by breathing and having a pulse implies some non-zero leverage.