artyboy123
Senior Member
@Northern Light any feedback on this particular proposal?
Toronto 1117 Queen West | 102.4m | 29s | Queen Street Post Inc | Giannone Petricone
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christiesplits
Senior Member
If this were anywhere else but on top of a historic and iconic postal office, I would love it.
Northern Light
Superstar
It's interesting.
If it wasn't sticking out of heritage building, I'd give it a pass subject to assorted details.
I'm a bit betwixt on the heritage thing, I feel like Toronto has so little of that left; and so much that begs for redevelopment. I'm not sure why we can't plunk this interesting stuff down at the redevelopment of Eglinton Square or I dunno, the corner of King and Dufferin, (cough)
This thing will earn a lot of sympathy from me if they agree to pay to bulldoze Lisgar Park and design a new space properly, in conjunction with rebuilding the adjacent streetscapes.
For a review of why the above is necessary, see my post in the Problematic Park Design thread, here:
Problematic Park Design - Why Some Parks Don't Work
Amazing thread and analysis! Really interesting to read through. I think for many urban design failures, including these 'modern parks', a lot of the problems come when the designers focus more on what it looks like from the air, rather than what it looks like from street level. You see this...
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Doesn't bother me much - the tower is set well back from the footprint of the heritage building, clearly separated as a distinct structure and only compromises one facade of what was. Take it as a win.
I do think it could be improved by separating the tower and the original building even further vertically - and ditch the enclosed space in-between and strip it down to what's strictly necessary - i.e. the core. The Lisgar park side of the facade on street looks a little too busy.
AoD
I do think it could be improved by separating the tower and the original building even further vertically - and ditch the enclosed space in-between and strip it down to what's strictly necessary - i.e. the core. The Lisgar park side of the facade on street looks a little too busy.
AoD
jmi22
Active Member
What's the details on Lisgar Park being disliked? I don't know anything about the park/perception of it other than walking thru a few times and it felt quite gray and flat.
canarob
Senior Member
What will the cladding be? It kind of looks like the sheet-metal-type stuff you see on farm buildings and rural arenas, etc.
egotrippin
Senior Member
Seems to be a corrugated metal of some sort. They used something similar on the Drake hotel expansion- looks nice and shiny in renders, but ended up looking more like a utility shed to my eyes.
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Rezoning play, nothing more. Don't get too attached and don't despair if you don't like it. It was bought for cheap ($15.4M or $82.2/sf buildable with this design) from an indifferent (at best) or corrupt (at worst) government, so that's about the attention I'm giving this application.
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HousingNowTO
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Now, given that introduction.... I must 100% add this site to our "Watch-List"...
artyboy123
Senior Member
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Amare
Senior Member
Wow Canada Post only sold this for ~$15 million? I'm going to put a wager and say they a page out of CLC's playbook and didnt include any conditions for affordable housing to be built here either.
What a joke.
What a joke.
Doppleganger
Active Member
I'd say we need a significant overhaul of the Ontario Heritage Act.Its interesting.
If it wasn't sticking out of heritage building, I'd give it a pass subject to assorted details.
I'm a bit betwixt on the heritage thing, I feel like Toronto has so little of that left; and so much that begs for redevelopment. I'm not sure why we can't plunk this interesting stuff down at the redevelopment of Eglinton Square or I dunno, the corner of King and Dufferin, (cough)
This thing will earn a lot of sympathy from me if they agree to pay to bulldoze Lisgar Park and design a new space properly, in conjunction with rebuilding the adjacent streetscapes.
For a review of why the above is necessary, see my post in the Problematic Park Design thread, here:
Problematic Park Design - Why Some Parks Don't Work
Amazing thread and analysis! Really interesting to read through. I think for many urban design failures, including these 'modern parks', a lot of the problems come when the designers focus more on what it looks like from the air, rather than what it looks like from street level. You see this...urbantoronto.ca
i3uild
New Member
It seems like zone and flips are becoming as common as actual proposals now.
ProjectEnd
Superstar
For a time it was very easy money, especially if you already owned the property (and were perhaps drawing holding income from it).
bro-arch
New Member
Yup. One of the tell tale signs is when there are random back and forth windows all the way up a facade. If it ends up looking anything like this it will have to be rationalized, or we are getting a sea of spandrel.