|601 ft / 183 m||58 storeys||!|
|Status: Under Construction||Completion: TBD|
Category: Condo, Retail
Uh, not with this particular row. In fact, this is one of *the* critical "save in toto" rows on Yonge...Yonge should definitely not remain as is. It is no different in height than Danforth. We need to have larger podiums with a nice urban presence with 2-4 storey commercial and maybe another 1-2 storey office on top. Having more than 1 storey of commercial is a necessity IMO as it leads the way to larger retailers buying up more than 1 floor and having large window displays. Aside from this argument, I think we're diluting our heritage market by including everything built X years ago. If all projects are built like five, it will look really goofy. I think we should keep the focus on the real gems that we have and instead of placing so much emphasis on preserving everything, we should instead work on adding night lighting, and improving the side walks near mentioned gems. I'll be really disappointed if the city thinks that five is a good example for every single new building on Yonge. A lot of its appeal comes from uniqueness. Why can't this city embrace change instead of hanging on to 2 storey row houses in one of our downtown's major thoroughfares?
"Save in toto" means save the whole row.To the vast majority of people, these look almost the same as the ones in five. That excuse is so overused, that it really has no significance. Apparently, every single building should be saved, and all development needs to be placed underground to protect vistas, heritage structures, sunlight, etc. As for "save in toto," I really have no idea what that means. Please enlighten me.
So you took a poll did you? Saving these wonderful blocks is an overused expression because we are losing so many of them so I'd argue a majority cares for these buildings if you keep hearing this "excuse". Walk up Bay Street or through CityPlace and compare it to walking up Yonge, Bloor West, College W, Gerrard E, Spadina, Queen St, Danforth etc and consider which is more stimulating and enjoyable.To the vast majority of people, these look almost the same as the ones in five. That excuse is so overused, that it really has no significance. Apparently, every single building should be saved, and all development needs to be placed underground to protect vistas, heritage structures, sunlight, etc.
And let's also remember that the real majority is, in fact, quite "it is what it is" indifferent to whether the persistence of 838-848 Yonge is a net plus or minus--the decisions in that light coming from beyond their personal realm, after all. And from their "untutored" standpoint, a good number of them may well already passively assume that the survival of this particular blockfront has something to do with "heritage status" of some kind or another. And not only assume, but accept the fact. And don't feel bad about it because, from all appearances, the block is active, functional, maybe a little well-worn but hardly fatally "slummy".^^While I agree that there should be professional in charge, it is also the case that the majority of people, if not the "vast" majority, in my experience, tend to be anti-development and these days especially anti-condo. You could get a random cross-section of people, across age, gender, political leanings, and find that they tend to be opposed to the average condo proposal, especially those that involve knocking old buildings down. Most people do not think of heritage as a "market" that can be "diluted" or "stimulated" by surplus or scarcity, but instead heritage buildings are worthy of protection to preserve both our history and the desirable neighbourhoods these heritage buildings create.
I'm in the camp of "this is entirely unexceptional & bland, get rid of it and replace it with something worthy of its prime location." No McMansion mentalities along Yonge Street one would surmise.Plus a few "this is old crap, get rid of it" McMansion-mentality mouthbreathers....
http://goo.gl/maps/b7yfNIn Paris much of their main shopping and cultural corridors have wide avenues and boulevards with much wider sidewalk space making their taller buildings that line the street feel more to scale. We don't have that luxury here hence cramping a 10' sidewalk that we share with garbage & newspaper bins, hydro/traffic light poles, TTC shelters, mail boxes, bike lockups and sandwich boards.