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Stonewater (was Idea Condo, Lakeview, Mississauga, Queenscorp, 4s, G+C)

Jeicow, no those are the original renderings. In the lower picture, the long dimension, along the right, is the north side of Lakeshore Road. The top picture is the view from the rear (north) and west side.

The building is admittedly a bit tight for the site, with no room to spare. A compromise might entail eliminating the townhouses facing the side street.

Interchange raised an important point above. The site faces Marie Curtis Park and the Arsenal Lands. There is certainly a good deal of greenspace in the area. That's without counting two golf courses just a few minutes walk to the north. Given that this location is an easy walk from the Long Branch GO station, I think it's appropriate for intensification.
 
After a quiet period, the current Condo Guide has a story on Idea. Things must be back on the rails - to a degree at least. No word on specific changes to the proposal in the article. Does anyone have any detailed knowledge of this?

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Seems it's a G+C design.


The Condo Guide Magazine

Condo Profiles:
An innovative idea New condo coming to Mississauga waterfront

Developer Queenscorp Residences did its homework on the condo market before putting pen to paper. The company researched what buyers want, and not just in terms of condo space, but also in terms of condo style as well, and they came up with the idea for idea.

Location is key, and as part of the Etobicoke-Mississauga waterfront revitalization, idea condo couldn’t be coming at a better time. “With approximately 500 acres of waterfront property potentially available for redevelopment, the City of Mississauga and local citizen groups have taken an active interest in the area’s revitalization with plans for Marie Curtis Park and the adjacent arsenal lands already underway,†says Queenscorp’s Andrea Archer.

Neighbour to idea, Marie Curtis Park is a proposed waterfront park boasting nature and biking trails, boating facilities, groomed beaches, sports facilities and picnic areas on a 76-acre parcel of land. idea is also neighbour to two distinguished golf clubs – the Toronto Golf Club and Lakeview Golf Club – so there’s no shortage of greenspace here. idea offers a tranquil location surrounded by parks and golf courses, but is within minutes of the shopping, restaurants and entertainment of downtown Toronto.

This location is a commuter’s dream, with the TTC steps away for travels to Toronto, and Mississauga Transit at your doorstep if you’re Mississauga-bound. The Long Branch GO station is a short walk away, where a train departs to have you in downtown Toronto in just 16 minutes.

Queenscorp is committed to developing condominium residences that meet the needs of today’s homeowners while safeguarding the well-being of future generations. Queenscorp’s Green initiative will focus on five key areas – energy management, environmental sustainabilty, resource management, risk management and smart growth.

“At idea, we have taken important steps to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by implementing high-performance and smart technologies like solar walls, utilizing on-site micro-generators and improving energy efficiency through smart meters and integrated energy management systems,†says Archer.

Designed by award-winning architects Graziani+Corazza, idea will be a contemporary landmark featuring distinctive architecture designed to enhance its natural surroundings, says Archer. A glass tower with steel, brick and concrete accents will rise from a podium, offering breathtaking views of the shimmering lake and spectacular city skyline.

Interiors are designed by the award-winning 3rd Uncle Design team, the firm behind the swanky Drake Hotel. Suites range from 465 to 1,165 sq. ft. and feature open-concept plans that allow for maximum flexibility and efficient use of interior space, says Archer.

Each unit offers a large balcony or terrace, to maximize on outdoor living space as well. Kitchens are chic yet functional, while luxurious upgraded bathrooms boast glass shower enclosures. Living areas are spacious – ideal for entertaining or spending some “me†time in style.

From floor to ceiling, no detail has been overlooked. The soaring nine- and 10-ft. ceilings enhance the feeling of spaciousness in the suites. Luxurious wood flooring gleams underfoot. Granite and marble countertops, built-in storage, in-suite laundry facilities, stainless steel and ENERGY STAR appliances round out these sleek suites.

The luxuries at idea extend beyond the suites themselves. idea offers Auto-Share and Bike-Share programs on site, allowing residents to rent a car or bicycle as required. But when you’re happy just to stay home, you’ll enjoy an assortment of amenities, including a luxury rooftop terrace, a spa and whirlpool, outdoor dining areas, cabana loungers, a fitness centre and yoga studio, a social lounge, theatre room and 24-hour concierge, at your service.

Suites at idea start from just $152,900. A visit to the idea sales centre will open your eyes to a whole new world of ideas. Visit idea at 3563 Lake Shore Blvd. W. Hours are Monday to Thursday, from noon to 7 p.m., and Saturday, Sunday and holidays from noon to 6 p.m.
 
Wow- they bummed down the website and seem to have dumped Ikea from all of this. I have the latest report somewhere on my computer. I'll upload it tommorow.
 
I'm really surprised the Long Branch area hasn't really exploded in development. It's really quite a good location!

As for this condo, I saw it in the previous Condo Guide or the one before that that it was still being developed. I thought the City of Mississauga said no to it though?
 
After a quiet period, the current Condo Guide has a story on Idea. Things must be back on the rails - to a degree at least. No word on specific changes to the proposal in the article. Does anyone have any detailed knowledge of this?

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No Idea.

Er.....
 
Just a quick update:

1) Third proposal was rejected on May 12. It lowerd the height to 18 stories, but increased the overall density.

2) Has gone to OMB (June 16) but no news about what happened there.

2) City recommends 6 floors maximum with all resident parking underground (current proposal has slightly above ground parking garage facing onto Lakeshore)

3) City wants proposal to make sidewalk in front at grade in order to keep streetwall.

4) City wants retail at the base (from the looks of it, it was removed in the latest appliction)

5) Transportation has issue with it since sight triangles have not been kept.

6) Area falls outside Major Transit Station Area losing out on extra density boost. (This is ~650m away from Long Branch, oposed to the 500m to get MTSA designation).
 
Interesting - actual facts - thanks jeicow! They aren't selling at this point - just taking registrations at the moment, so we'll see how the dust has settled once they are selling again. I wonder if earlier purchasers have all been let out of their agreements, or what happened, and would they try to sell this again before getting approvals this time 'round?

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I love the beginning of the advertorial. "Developer Queenscorp Residences did its homework on the condo market before putting pen to paper." Too bad they didn't do there homework and find out what the City would allow, with a third proposal rejected. I guess they studied the OMB and planned to go that route
 
Just a quick update:

2) City recommends 6 floors maximum with all resident parking underground (current proposal has slightly above ground parking garage facing onto Lakeshore)

3) City wants proposal to make sidewalk in front at grade in order to keep streetwall.

4) City wants retail at the base (from the looks of it, it was removed in the latest appliction)

F*%#$n right! That's what we pay these bureaucrats for!!
 
F'n right! That's what we pay these bureaucrats for!!

Well, I agree with the second two points, but as for 6 floors?? Where is this exactly? If close to the water, lower may be better to not separate the rest of the city from the waterfront, if its in MCC then 6 floors is far too short in a high density area with future transit node aspirations.
 
Condo-tower ruling sends 'strong message'

Toronto Star

August 19, 2008
Phinjo Gombu
Urban Affairs Reporter

An Ontario Municipal Board decision that rejects a controversial plan for a 21-storey condo tower in south Mississauga near Lake Ontario sets a new standard for how and where redevelopment and highrise intensification should occur, a councillor says.

The ruling, released just before the weekend, is a relief to some suburban ratepayer groups fearful of a growing crush of infill applications for tall towers next to their neighbourhoods and a setback for developers hoping to cash in on the condo craze.

The decision doesn't mean that all tall buildings are out, it just means that they have to be and should be located near the so-called growth centres, areas that have been set aside by planners – usually along major arterial roads and city centres and transit hubs – for growth.

The board also gave a boost to municipal efforts to control and define how they will grow with a ruling that supported the municipality's plans for intensification – as envisioned under their own and the province's Places to Grow initiative – over those of developers.

"If a developer is hoping to parachute in unreasonable heights or densities into an established community, this decision will send a strong message that it is not going to happen," said an elated Mississauga Councillor Carmen Corbasson yesterday.

"This is the biggest test we've had going forward with all infill applications in light of the provincial policy statement on growth," added Corbasson, whose own city is bracing for a slew of intensification proposals to accommodate provincial targets for growth.

The Town of Markham's director of planning Valerie Shuttleworth said the ruling gives comfort to residents, town councils and planners as they try to come up with their own growth plans that fit with the province's plans to curb urban sprawl by promoting intensification.

Developers in the suburbs have stepped up with proposals for taller and taller towers which are lucrative because of the premiums paid by condo-dwellers for a view.

Unlike Toronto, which had its "skyscraper wars" many years ago – and now has more than 150 condo projects on the books – the battles in the suburbs are only just beginning.

In Markham's case, a developer has put forward a proposal for a 39-storey building in the downtown Markham Centre area, where planners and council are hoping to create a city centre of six- to 10-storey mixed-use buildings.

"It's an important ruling," said Shuttleworth. "All across the GTA, planners are dealing with intensification proposals filed in the name of the provincial growth plan and many of them are too high and too intense."

"A board decision that clearly supports the municipality and its provisions for intensification as they have articulated it in their plans is good," said Shuttleworth. "It should make some ratepayer groups and lots of planners happy, and give us some comfort."

The OMB ruling is yet another weapon in the hands of municipalities that in recent years have been given the power to decide where an urban boundary should lie – without the right of an automatic appeal to the board by developers.

The case at the centre of the board ruling was a proposal by Queenscorp (Lakeview) Inc. The problem was that the company's 21-storey wish was much higher than the municipality's plans to have four-storey buildings.

In an emailed statement, Queenscorp president Mark Bozzo said that he was deeply disappointed with the OMB decision, and that Mississauga had lost an opportunity to create a landmark building on the lakeshore – a long-neglected area.

He pointed to the fact that Toronto had recently approved a 16-storey condominium less than 500 metres from their site, saying that "good planning is borderless, and it was unfortunate an imaginary municipal border seems to have made the difference in this case."

The proposal for the towers was opposed by the 800-strong Lakeview Ratepayers Association who have their own citizen-inspired plan for a low- to medium-density community for 20,000 people on the sprawling lands where the Lakeview coal-powered electricity plant once stood.
 
It really doesn't make any sense.
Sure building in these projected growth centres makes more sense than building a high rise outside of them, I get that.
I also get that there is already a community there that does not consist of these towers.

Was Palace Pier built in an established community? Did it face objections?
 

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