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[howdy]

Wonder if Zum will go the way of YRT and GO at York.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Wonder if Zum will go the way of YRT and GO at York.

Almost certainly. It just a matter of when, not if.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Have gone out filming Viva a bunch the last few weeks, some nice shots of the station and area around VMC towards the end:

Did you go down into VMC station from the Viva station?

 

[yrt+viva=1system]

In case anyone is wondering, the connection between the VIVA station and the subway is still not finished even after so many months. Seems like they are really foot dragging now that the subway has officially been in operation.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

With regard to the Scarborough RT:

Are there any crossovers between the northbound and southbound tracks from Kennedy Station to Ellesmere Station?

Are there any crossovers between the westbound and eastbound tracks from Midland Station to McCowan Station?

If not, was it a design choice or a technical constraint?

(I imagine that, one way or another, there is nothing along the approaches to the Ellesmere portal and nothing between McCowan Station and the yard.)

The only actual crossover is at Mckowan sat=ion and then Kennedy is the one-way track in and out with a switch on the outbound end that changes depending on when a train is leaving or entering.

 

[Richard White]

With regard to the Scarborough RT:

Are there any crossovers between the northbound and southbound tracks from Kennedy Station to Ellesmere Station?

Are there any crossovers between the westbound and eastbound tracks from Midland Station to McCowan Station?

If not, was it a design choice or a technical constraint?

(I imagine that, one way or another, there is nothing along the approaches to the Ellesmere portal and nothing between McCowan Station and the yard.)

May have been both a technical challenge and design choice. The reason only one track is at Kennedy is because they could not put in a double crossover at the curve. They had to put a single one in. The RT originally had two separate platforms but the trains kept derailing in the loop.

As for crossovers elsewhere most of the stations sre under a bridge with limited, impractical access for shuttles. Turning trains at Midland is a non-starter since buses cannot loop anywhere, Ellesmere is under a bridge and does not have the capacity to handle shuttles.

Lawrence East is too close to Kennedy to make a crossover practical.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

May have been both a technical challenge and design choice. The reason only one track is at Kennedy is because they could not put in a double crossover at the curve. They had to put a single one in. The RT originally had two separate platforms but the trains kept derailing in the loop.

As for crossovers elsewhere most of the stations sre under a bridge with limited, impractical access for shuttles. Turning trains at Midland is a non-starter since buses cannot loop anywhere, Ellesmere is under a bridge and does not have the capacity to handle shuttles.

Lawrence East is too close to Kennedy to make a crossover practical.

The loop seems like an odd idea to start with. Vancouver never used it at the end of their lines, was that because it had already proven to be a bad idea between when the RT started service and the expo line began construction?

 

[asher__jo]

The loop seems like an odd idea to start with. Vancouver never used it at the end of their lines, was that because it had already proven to be a bad idea between when the RT started service and the expo line began construction?

Of course the loop existed because it was originally intended to be a streetcar line.

 

[Sandpit]

In case anyone is wondering, the connection between the VIVA station and the subway is still not finished even after so many months. Seems like they are really foot dragging now that the subway has officially been in operation.

My guess is that it will be finished at the same time as the Smartcentres Terminal.

 

[innsertnamehere]

York Region had to hand over the road construction of the area around the subway to SmartCentres to build it in time for the subway to open... They couldn't do it themselves in time. The whole YR part of the subway extension has crawled the whole way through, the only part they completed in a reasonable time frame was actually contracted out to SmartCentres.

 

[nfitz]

My guess is that it will be finished at the same time as the Smartcentres Terminal.

What's that? Is that west of that bus terminal they are building?

 

[TOareaFan]

What's that? Is that west of that bus terminal they are building?

I thought Smartcentres Terminal was that bus terminal they are building....no?

 

[Leo_Chan]

I thought Smartcentres Terminal was that bus terminal they are building....no?

What is beign discussed is the concourse area of the VMC vivastation, with the stairs, elevators and escalators.

 

[nfitz]

I thought Smartcentres Terminal was that bus terminal they are building....no?

It's just a terminal - i don't think there is a SmartCentre there - there doesn't look like any stores at all.

Wait - did Vaughan really sell the naming rights to the bus terminal at the Vaughan Mafia Centre subway station? And to a company that uses a confusing name? Isn't anyone who sees a sign with that name going to be expecting to find big stores and free parking? LOL!

 

[Fritter]

I believe Smart Centres head office is in a building nearby. I'm sure that gave way to the naming rights sales pitch.