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Former President Donald Trump's United States of America

Admiral Beez said:
True. The last President I can think that eschewed global adventures was Herbert Hoover. However, with Hoover in the White House there would have been no US involvement in WW2, at least in Europe, where the Nazis and Soviets fight to Europe’s destruction.
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True. The 1920s to the mid-1930s was one of the rare periods free of major conflict - probably because of the Depression. Germany declared was on the US in solidarity with Japan. The European Theatre could have been a 'phoney war' type of thing with both sides essentially ignoring each other but with Hitler giving freedom to the Krieigmarine in the Atlantic it would have inevitably drawn them in. He was fairly renown for sabotaging his own strategies.
 
lenaitch said:
When was the last one that didn't start or continue an existing overseas adventure.
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Outside of the Somalia excursion, and the occasion TLAM strike, Clinton's eight years were comparatively non interventionist. A different president for example may have sent a lot more weight into the Balkans. USA help in Rwanda would have saved lives.
 
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Admiral Beez said:
Outside of the Somalia excursion, and the occasion TLAM strike, Clinton's eight years were comparatively non interventionist. A different president for example may have sent a lot more weight into the Balkans. USA help in Rwanda would have saved lives.
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Having a dead US solider being dragged along the dusty streets of Mogadishu on prime time news during the early days of the administration killed whatever will and appetite for humanitarian interventions there was at the time. Rwanda simply flowed from that. Conpare and contrast this lack of stomach to the order of magnitude difference in the Iraq conflict a decade later for an anything but humanitarian response.

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Another school shooting today.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/live-updates-shooting-santa-fe-texas-high-school-150311016.html

I wonder if these shootings will have any impact on millennial voter turnout in November. The GOP is betting on millennials not showing up.

The Republican Party's Generational Bet
The GOP is doubling down on its older white base—and hoping the more diverse Millennials don't show up to the polls.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ng-its-majority-on-older-white-voters/560537/
 
What? They haven't armed the teachers yet? Idiots.



I'm guessing that at some point in time the majority of people will finally have enough of the rubbish and do things in their power to change the status quo. I mean, the country is a bit of a joke, to be honest. I remember my trip to Detroit a decade ago (apparently it's gotten a bit better), but I couldn't help but think: Wow, I'm in a third-world country here! I know that has nothing at all to do with school shootings but it's just one example of many that illustrates my point about the USA being a joke.
I would not at all be surprised if it became a failed state in my lifetime.
 
I spend some time on a predominantly US website that has a significant good-old-boy, right-leaning base (trades, DIY'ers). It reflects my personal observations that many Americans are starkly partisan and discussion with 'the other' is extremely polarized if possible at all. They very much wear their politics on their sleeve and 'the other' are seen as mentally unstable, corrupt and/or should simply be locked up for wanting to ruin their nation. The most heated political forums on this website are decidedly calm and rational in comparison. We are seen (if Canadians are considered at all) as nothing but a immature bunch of socialists riding on their coattails. Many seem to firmly believe that their country is headed for another revolution or civil war and see it as a way to cleanse. Apparently such a view is a thought or quote from one the Founding Fathers who are revered as the only pure constitutionalists - every politician or public official that followed is part of a corrupt deep state.
 
lenaitch said:
They very much wear their politics on their sleeve and 'the other' are seen as mentally unstable, corrupt and/or should simply be locked up for wanting to ruin their nation. The most heated political forums on this website are decidedly calm and rational in comparison.
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I don't know....I've seen a bit of that on here. I can guess with some certainty that it isn't anything as bad as what you're talking about though, sure.
 
MTown said:
I don't know....I've seen a bit of that on here. I can guess with some certainty that it isn't anything as bad as what you're talking about though, sure.
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Certainly there are diehard partisans in Canada, but it seems the general sentiment here is that we elect a government (pick the stripe) then spend the rest of the term disliking them. Down there, it seems fairly widespread that allegiance to a particular party exists from womb to grave, rationale discussion is rare, and nothing good is done if 'the other party' is in power (four years of ruination). I was on a bike trip in the States a few years ago stopped at gas station and a friendly local chatted us up when he saw we were from out-of-country. We had some light conversation then he felt compelled to tell us that Obama was ruining the country. Who does that to foreign tourists? And recently on that other forum a poster said he found out that an actor voted for a certain President and will no longer watch his movies. I just don't get it.
 
Two synopsis of the 2018 G7 meeting:

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From link.

The last covfefe? Unfortunately, no it's not.
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From link.
 
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