micheal_can
Senior Member
We elected a federal government where most of them has a carbon footprint reducing plan. I would say that until a new federal election, nothing will come of this. Which means it stays as prime farmland.
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Pickering Airport (Transport Canada/GTAA, Proposed)
- Thread starter wyliepoon
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We elected a federal government where most of them has a carbon footprint reducing plan. I would say that until a new federal election, nothing will come of this. Which means it stays as prime farmland.
kEiThZ
Superstar
I would say this true only for the current parliament. Minority government tends to have some restrictions.
micheal_can
Senior Member
That is why I said "until the next federal election". Having said that, we could see that next election, the harder push to reduce our carbon footprint. This will be another nail in the coffin for Pickering's airport.
44 North
Senior Member
I'm still on the fence about a massive Pickering airport. On one hand Pearson does seem pretty full, and not talking runway/terminal stuff. Rather just the roads getting to it. Something I'm curious about is Durham...is there to be some future (+20-50yrs) major population boom along the 407 and to Port Perry. Like Big Pipe, get water and sewage, then re-create the Peel, Halton, York sameness. Or are things sort of limited to just the planned North Pickering development?
lenaitch
Senior Member
I couldn't quickly find a relevant map, but the airport lands area is very close to the greenbelt and protected lands, particularly to the north towards Port Perry. The York Durham 'big pipe' is primarily a York Region sanitary sewage system; Durham gets included because the main discharge moves down through Durham to the main Duffins Creek Treatment Plant in Pickering. I'm not sure even Uxbridge is on it or planned to be.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
You can find the detailed maps here:
But in general, there isn't a lot of unprotected developable land in Durham.
AoD
JasonParis
Moderator
...to the consternation of some of Durham's mayors.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Uxbridge is still on a local based system. It's limiting growth quite a bit because they don't have servicing capacity. Uxbridge doesn't have a ton of additional greenfield lands, just a bit for maybe 3-4,000 new residents, but has been receiving quite a lot of new infill townhouse applications within the existing urban boundary and even those are struggling to get servicing.
Durham is looking at upgrading the plant to eke out an additional 1,400 units of servicing capacity, but I doubt that would even be enough to service the little amount of greenfield land the town has.
Uxbridge currently has a population of about 12,000, I would be surprised to see that move north of 15,000 any time soon.
Uxbridge to examine potential development expansion
The issue: Limited sewage capacity in Uxbridge has long impacted development in the township. Local impact: With planned improvements ongoing, additional capacity could allow for development on lands...
www.durhamregion.com
MarkBrooks
Active Member
As McMansions and urban sprawl start to envelop the Pickering airport lands the misinformation about the airport is picking up.
A good example of this is suggesting that the older, small GA airport in Oshawa can simply be expand.
Anyone buying one of the new million dollar homes now being build right up to the PASZR NEF 30 should not be fooled by this or surprised by a bit of aircraft noise In the future. Always amazed by the wishful thinking Syndrome.
Here is a more specific discussion of this issue:
pickeringairport.org
A good example of this is suggesting that the older, small GA airport in Oshawa can simply be expand.
Anyone buying one of the new million dollar homes now being build right up to the PASZR NEF 30 should not be fooled by this or surprised by a bit of aircraft noise In the future. Always amazed by the wishful thinking Syndrome.
Here is a more specific discussion of this issue:
Pickering a Better Alternative to Oshawa - Friends of Pickering Airport
Print 🖨 PDF 📄 eBook 📱November 18, 2019 East of Toronto, plans are progressing to build a new international airport in Pickering on a land reserve set aside for that purpose more than four decades ago. Those opposing the project have consistently suggested that expanding and retrofitting a small...
pickeringairport.org
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
No one is speaking about oshawa as a potential reliever airport for the GTA. Its runway system and other infrastructure CANNOT be expanded to accomodate modern passenger planes
MarkBrooks
Active Member
I agree totally, the website that pushed this ( growoshawa.ca ) is now offline but the idea that oshawa or Buttonville could be expanded is still there. It’s next level misdirection, right along side the idea that all the aviation experts are somehow wrong about Pearson’s capacity.
as an example, just last week:
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44 North
Senior Member
Ok so nothing like 500k pop in new greenfield population. Recall realizing this awhile back. But do wonder how set in stone some of this greenbelt stuff is, and there does seem to be a fair amount of space left. Particularly with towns and semis filled in (normal style, not the giganto ones we're seeing built in the outer areas nowadays).
micheal_can
Senior Member
It's only as set as the current provincial government says it is. So, with a new election comes new risks to it..
kEiThZ
Superstar
At minimum, the airport isn't happening for the next few years. The optics of building a massive multi-billion dollar airport before some major rail investment would be terrible. Could cost the Liberals seats in the GTA by outright shifting to NDP or splitting the vote.
micheal_can
Senior Member
Wait, you mean unless it is an environmentally sound project it won't happen?
And then there is this....
Seven people, including three children, dead after Kingston plane crash
Seven people, including three children, are dead after a plane that took off from Markham, Ont. crashed in a wooded area in Kingston.
toronto.ctvnews.ca