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ORCA Project (Bathurst-Spadina Rail Deck Development) | ?m | ?s | Sweeny &Co

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  1. Automation Gallery

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    The proposal is to develop a rail corridor overbuild (deck) over the existing active rail corridor to accommodate development, while maintaining the rail activities. The ORCA Project proposes a mixed-use and open space development, consisting of 8 buildings with a combined gross floor area (GFA) of 368,100 m2. The proposal includes the portion of the Rail Corridor bounded by Front Street West between Spadina and Bathurst; Blue Jays Way; Ice Boat Terrace; and Bathurst Street.
    Proposed Use --- # of Storeys --- # of Units ---
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    Type Number Date Submitted Status
    OPA 17 164359 STE 20 OZ May 23, 2017 Under Review
     
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    Holy Moly:)

    An aerial view

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    Wow! Who or what is ORCA?
     
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    This is where the public park was supposed to go?

    Well this one at least has a chance of happening I suppose.
     
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    this is where the park will be. This is likely a strategy by the person who had claimed to already own the parcel. We will have to wait and see.
     
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    Yeah could be, but then again the park is just a 1-3 billion dollar vision, unless developers like Oxford and others get involved nothing will happen in our lifetime
     
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    Agreed. This raildeck park could happen, but there will need to be towers along the edges in certain places to make it economically viable. The city and province are already stretched and essential infrastructure is unfunded as is, so working with developers is the way to go.
     
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    I think they should consolidate the 8 buildings to a fewer number of taller buildings (maybe 3-4?)- basically Wellesley on the Park or Hudson Yards.

    I also wonder if they might propose setting space aside for a GO station in the proposal- I would imagine that if this ever gets built, sticking a GO station in afterwards would basically be impossible.
     
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    Yeah - I believe this is from Craft
     
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    Of note:


    This might be the last significant battle at the OMB before it disappears, interestingly enough. Maybe this application is a quick foot-in-the door to ensure that it gets to the OMB in time?
     
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    I'm a little concerned that a project of this scale could be out of Craft's league.

    Hopefully the consortium of developers includes some bigger names as well.
     
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    Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the portion of the land above the layover (future site of the RER station) getting development on top and leave the rest as a park - from the Metrolinx Spadina IBC

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    Well this shall be interesting. I think we still have an open debate at the Rail Deck Park thread about whether or not you can stratify and then buy/sell air rights here. I have yet to go through a number of potentially relevant SCC cases posted by @steveintoronto and add my thoughts. That issue alone would potentially be a matter to go to the courts in this case. But if we are to assume that they do have those rights and they can submit the OPA, this still gets very juicy.

    But I'll propose hypothetical stuff, including rights, potential court cases and lawsuits goes in the Rail Deck Park thread, and we save this one for the specifics of the proposed development. Thoughts?
     
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