Bizarre...Someone is off their rails.ontc-fully-committed-to-rail-passenger-service
Ontario Northland Transportation Commission President and CEO Corina Moore said the Crown agency and its partner, Metrolinx, another Crown agency, are “well into the development of a passenger rail plan” to revive the service which last ran in 2012.
One of the benefits of working with Metrolinx, she said, is that the crown agency “has a strong relationship with CN. They understand the intricacies of running a network from Toronto to North Bay.
Quote after quote makes no sense, save for one glaring aspect:Fedeli said it was unfortunate “a self-serving consultant is trying to invest themselves into very important Northern Ontario issues.
Toronto to North Bay service is workable as a viable, well-utilized service with a modest operating subsidy and full capital subsidy.
Lofty goals, especially between points where rails no longer exist.Toronto to North Bay service is workable as a viable, well-utilized service with a modest operating subsidy and full capital subsidy.
But it needs to be run by a professional railway that gives a...........
a) The service should be contracted to VIA and branded as VIA
b) One-time coinvestments with CN and/or CP needed to establish better track speed, more reliable service
c) Brand new rolling stock, duel-ended, laid out to have the types of cars to serve the passengers that would use the service
d) Sensible departure times
e) Frequency MUST be a minimum of twice daily (allowing same-day return trips along portions of the corridor)
That said, at this point, much as I have nostalgia for this sort of thing, I would probably invest in better bus service instead.
If we're going to go the train route, we need to invest properly, including bringing back a network of routes and some supporting bus services to smaller communities and larger ones away from the railway.
A proper, base-line network for the near north/north-east and the north-west would mean.
North Bay - Toronto
North Bay - Timmins/Cochrane/Moosenee
Sault Ste Marie - Sudbury - North Bay
North Bay- Mattawa - Ottawa
The connection to Barrie also needs to be restored in some fashion.
All of that is rather costly, both capital and by way of subsidy.
Its tough to argue for not doing this principally by bus for the time being; and considering trains if the bus service generates enough demand.
Just incredible...Fedeli said it was unfortunate “a self-serving consultant is trying to invest themselves into very important Northern Ontario issues.
“This is not at all helpful,” Fedeli said.
At what price? And for that price, if fifty other better business cases can be made elsewhere?I'm no fan of this government, but any initiative to restore or increase rail connections to cities and towns across the province is a big win in my eyes.
Now if they would just rebuild the track from Barrie to Collingwood/Wasaga...
Not trying to dispute your points, I'm just wondering why operating a small train made of 2 or 3 DMUs with no loco is so much more expensive than operating a bus route of similar length.Its tough to argue for not doing this principally by bus for the time being; and considering trains if the bus service generates enough demand.
The problem I see with a SSM-NB service is I don't think there is the potential ridership (I say that not really knowing any numbers - perhaps some bus numbers would be instructive). When you think of nodes, there is not a lot of connection between SMM, Sudbury and NB. They are each centres for their own catchment area but I'm not sure there is a lot of intercity dynamic. They each have air service, good sized health centres, adequate shopping, etc. and their isn't a lot of population along the line. The track would also need significant work to allow reasonable passenger speeds.If they get that, they really should work on a North Bay - SSM train run too.