salsa
Senior Member
Priorities for Torontonians:
1. DRL
2. Crosstown
3. Scarborough
4. Smart Track
Priorities for politicians:
1. Smart Track
2. Scarborough
3. Crosstown
4. DRL
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Priorities for Torontonians:
1. DRL
2. Crosstown
3. Scarborough
4. Smart Track
Priorities for politicians:
1. Smart Track
2. Scarborough
3. Crosstown
4. DRL
facepalming_brooklynite
Active Member
Poor methodology. What exactly do they mean by priority?
When they include Eglinton Crosstown, do they mean the part that is currently under construction, or do they mean the Eastern and Western extensions?
And RER is not on the list, or is that subsumed under Smartrack?
We need a transit network, and that requires building many lines across the city, not pitting one against the other.
crs1026
Senior Member
It's interesting that the supporters of all three mayoral candidates picked the same top three priorities, although in differing degrees. Tory supporters didn't pick ST, and Chow supporters overwhelmingly picked the DRL (which she wasn't committed to)
I'm not surprised. that few mentioned GO/RER (which I presume would have fallen into the 'Other' category. The sample, after all, was drawn within the 416. One would probably have seen a very different response from the 905.
This may help find a bit more common ground within City Council - enough to get on with some of these. If anyone is still holding out hope of Council coming to its senses and replacing the Scarboro subway with a more cost effective solution - sorry, the ship has not only sailed, it has gone over the horizon.
- Paul
I'm not surprised. that few mentioned GO/RER (which I presume would have fallen into the 'Other' category. The sample, after all, was drawn within the 416. One would probably have seen a very different response from the 905.
This may help find a bit more common ground within City Council - enough to get on with some of these. If anyone is still holding out hope of Council coming to its senses and replacing the Scarboro subway with a more cost effective solution - sorry, the ship has not only sailed, it has gone over the horizon.
- Paul
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
They asked people to select which transit project they personally prioritized the most. The Relief Line had the most votes.
Just the currently approved Crosstown. Not East and West.
RER would be in the "other" category.
In a world with limited funding, prioritizing is necessary.
facepalming_brooklynite
Active Member
Sorry for not making myself clear before: "Prioritizing" Eglinton Crosstown is meaningless, as construction for the line is well under way (plus it's paid for by Metrolinx, not the City).
It's just sloppy methodology to not distinguish between projects that are in the planning stage (where an actual decision could be made) and projects that are well under way. Furthermore, if this is meant to inform city council, then it should have been limited to projects that the city has a say over.
In short, the question should have been something like: "which of these transit projects that are currently being planned is the most important to you?"
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Frank the Tank
44 North
Senior Member
haha sounds like the tagline for a blockbuster movie, or something the voiceover guy says at the start of a trailer.
facepalming_brooklynite
Active Member
Insulting strangers on the internet, what fun!
rbt
Senior Member
Priorities for the GTA (and downtown Toronto businesses who pay substantial taxes to the feds) would probably be ordered closer to GO RER, Smart Track, DRL, Crosstown, ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., Scarborough Subway. From a federal perspective, the GTA+H+KW is the more relevant grouping to appease.
This federal budget took care of a big chunk of shovel ready SOGR projects. I suspect the next one will throw a ton of cash at the nearly shovel ready GO RER plan. Wouldn't be surprised if partial DRL funding was in the federal pre-election budget in 3 years IFF the provincial government is still cooperative.
Whether Scarborough Subway survives the next municipal election really depends on Scarborough MPPs. I don't think Doug will actually try for Councillor or Mayor again. Mike might run for councillor but won't make any noise about Scarborough.
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Frank the Tank
*From the producers who brought you the Die Hard and Jason Bourne film series, comes a world, where with limited funding, prioritizing is necessary.*
*Starring Tom Cruise as Mayor John Tory, Rosie O'Donnell as Premier Kathleen Wynne, Bill Murray as Metrolinx CEO Bruce McCuaig and just about every random assortment of screen actors ever put together, comes the most highly anticipated action-thriller of 2016*
*D-R-L*
renvel
Active Member
The short & redundant DRL is a total waste of money!
What about the Yonge Line North extension though?...
What about the Yonge Line North extension though?...
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Put that over dramatic music and it'll sound like I'm an assassin trying to figure out who I'll target next.
ottbike
Active Member
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
No.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
No... if the "short" DRL (to Pape Station) is only phase 1. The DRL should continue with phase 2 (to Eglinton) followed by phase 3 (to Sheppard), etc..