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Streety McCarface

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Ontario-Toronto Take the Next Step Towards Building the Largest Subway Expansion in Canadian History
February 14, 2020


Following the signing of the "Ontario-Toronto Transit Partnership Preliminary Agreement" with the City of Toronto, Caroline Mulroney, Minister of Transportation issued the following statement:

"Today, the Province of Ontario and the City of Toronto signed a Preliminary Agreement to deliver on our unified plan to significantly expand and modernize the subway network across the Greater Toronto Area (GTA). This agreement forms the foundation for our continued partnership and represents another important step forward to build a transit system for the 21st century faster for the people of the GTA.

Premier Ford and the City of Toronto both share a commitment and responsibility to build transit infrastructure quickly and efficiently to keep people moving, to drive business investment and job creation, and to improve the environment. Through this partnership, we are making historic investments in Ontario's transportation network with the new Ontario Line and three subway extensions - the largest subway expansion in Canadian history.

Working together on these four priority transit projects, we are building a world-class transportation network and developing transit-oriented communities with a greater variety of housing options.This is part of our plan to build new transit faster so people can get where they want to go, when they want to get there."
Looks like Sheppard is out of the question now.
It's always been 2027
"As Early As The End of"

Meaning their original estimates were clearly wishful thinking.
 

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"As Early As The End of"
Meaning their original estimates were clearly wishful thinking.
Meaning, that they have no intention on delivering it by then. Even if they had all the plans ready to go and started building tomorrow, I'd very much doubt they'd manage to build a subway through downtown in 7 years. The Eglinton Crosstown going through a far less dense, far less complex part of the city in a relatively straight line, started construction in 2011 and won't be finished on its (already delayed) deadline in 2021. At best, they'll have a plan that's shovel ready in 2 years and there's no way they build this in 5 years. Just not going to happen. If it gets built at all, we're looking at sometime in the 2030's.

Toronto needed this line 5 years ago. With unplanned subway closures happening routinely now, we're already in desperate territory. I really don't want to imagine how things will be with no solution available during this entire decade.
 

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Toronto needed this line 5 years ago. With unplanned subway closures happening routinely now, we're already in desperate territory. I really don't want to imagine how things will be with no solution available during this entire decade.
Redundancy in the subway system is very necessary as population grows, demand increases, and infrastructure ages.

Funding and political will be needed.
 

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Redundancy in the subway system is very necessary as population grows, demand increases, and infrastructure ages.

Funding and political will be needed.
Hence why the Sheppard Subway expansion is also needed. An east to west subway line north of the Bloor Danforth and Eglinton corridors is critical should any incidents occur along those other lines.
 

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From that article...

The day of Ford’s April 10, 2019 announcement, few people outside the provincial government could say where the Ontario Line plan had come from. There had been no reports published to support the project, and no public debate on whether it was a good idea.​
But a cache of more than 5,600 pages of internal Metrolinx documents reveals the Ontario Line owes its origins to a private consultant, who pitched the concept to the agency’s CEO in January 2019. Just three months later, it was the Ford government’s top transit priority.​
The documents, which are emails and reports the Star obtained through a freedom of information request, are heavily redacted. Metrolinx, the provincial transit agency, has censored nearly 4,000 pages, claiming the important transit planning discussions they capture fall under exemptions to freedom of information legislation.​
 

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"No more backroom deals." Doug Ford, August 16, 2018

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1349341

The secret Metrolinx documents also confirmed that the province secretly hired Michael Schabas to oversee the new line and leaked details of Ford's transit plans to the Toronto Sun the day before his announcement.
 
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Another negative article from the Toronto Star about this line..
I’m sorry, did you expect the media to get down on their knees for Doug Ford?

Direct your angst towards the government that has decided to make all these decisions in secret. If the government doesn’t want the media snooping around, they oughta not conduct themselves as if they’re engaging in shady backroom dealing. You really expect the media just to look the other way on that?
 
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"No more backroom deals." Doug Ford, August 16, 2018

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1349341

The secret documents also confirmed that the province secretly hired Michael Schabas to oversee the new line and leaked details of Ford's transit plans to the Toronto Sun the day before his announcement.
Secrecy. Why all this secrecy? It’s a bloody subway line.
 

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"No more backroom deals." Doug Ford, August 16, 2018

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1349341

The secret Metrolinx documents also confirmed that the province secretly hired Michael Schabas to oversee the new line and leaked details of Ford's transit plans to the Toronto Sun the day before his announcement.
This is the same guy that proposed SmartTrack, and suggested it would eliminate the need for the DRL. Not exactly confidence inspiring :confused:
 
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