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BurlOak

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For the 1000th time can people just copy and paste the articles. Lots of people don't have a subscription and some people can't figure out how to get around pay walls
I read it and there was not much exciting in the article.
Sometimes I copy the link into a private browser (InPrivate, Incognito). another option that was pointed out here was to click the refresh and immediately hit escape and the page shows up. These don't always work though - in which case I just figure that it couldn't be that important if another site didn't cover the same story.

It seems the policy on UT is that you are allowed to pasted short quotes from articles, but not allowed to paste entire articles - unless your motivation is to prevent clicks to the TorontoSun (or other right-wing news source), in which case the entire article can be pasted.
 

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Or don’t steal content... 🤷‍♂️
Its not stealing considering the entire article gets downloaded to your machine in the background.

Heres the stars website, with the "paywall" if all I do is disable CSS stylesheets.

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If the Star doesn't want people to read their content for free, they shouldnt download it onto my computer. Putting the entire article on my computer, you are giving me the right to read it. Its already on my machine.

Disabling CSS isnt a "hack" either. Its not a requirement in terms of web standards. AODA readers for example can disable CSS for accessibility. I'm not hacking the site, i'm just choosing to not enable one of the optional features.
 

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Yes, yes and if the person at the market didn’t want me to steal their fruit they wouldn’t leave it unattended outside their store. No matter how you want to frame it, if you’re supposed to pay for something, and you don’t, you’re stealing.

I hope the mods govern the posting of stolen articles accordingly.
 

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I think you have the rights to read it if it ends up in your face either as a free article or whatever way you decide to read it. Posting it and teaching others how to gain access to it is totally a different thing.
 

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Yes, yes and if the person at the market didn’t want me to steal their fruit they wouldn’t leave it unattended outside their store. No matter how you want to frame it, if you’re supposed to pay for something, and you don’t, you’re stealing.

I hope the mods govern the posting of stolen articles accordingly.
So don't look over someone shoulder to read something on their device, or risk arrest?

Or to ask someone out for a date?
 

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FFS, just input the right search terms into Google News and multiple sources for the story if it's trending or popular enough will come up. Problem solved.

You guys are acting like the Toronto Star is some sacred scripture whose text can't be replicated elsewhere. :rolleyes:
 

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For the 1000th time can people just copy and paste the articles. Lots of people don't have a subscription and some people can't figure out how to get around pay walls
No paywall, and opening in incognito in Chrome usually gets around this.
 

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For the 1000th time can people just copy and paste the articles. Lots of people don't have a subscription and some people can't figure out how to get around pay walls
Paywall is becoming more a pain in the ass and very expensive to subscribe to. If I had to pay for all the paywall sites I visit, cost me over $1,500 a year.
Good journalism costs money. If you want good journalism, pay for it. If nobody pays for it, the paywalls are just a way of getting used to the world after we kill all the proper news outlets.
 

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Yes, yes and if the person at the market didn’t want me to steal their fruit they wouldn’t leave it unattended outside their store. No matter how you want to frame it, if you’re supposed to pay for something, and you don’t, you’re stealing.

I hope the mods govern the posting of stolen articles accordingly.
This isnt them putting their fruit outside the store, this is them putting it in my house.

Its not copy and pasting the article, its them literally giving it to me to have, on my hard drive.

If they don't want me to read something they gave me, they shouldnt have given it to me in the first place.

I wouldnt steal it from a source like Outline or copy and pasted from a friend. If they put up a proper working paywall, I would either not read it or pay.

But if you are gonna do something as simple as put it on my hard drive for me, sorry. Its mine now.

Otherwise dont put fruit in my house if you dont expect me to eat it.
 

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