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Ontario Line (was Relief Line South, in Design)

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I think the parking lots around the Science Centre would be kind of wasted on an MSF. That corner of Don Mills and Eglinton is the main entrance to the Eglinton LRT:

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As an undeveloped corner at the intersection of two rapid transit lines, it should be packed with as many offices, residences, and businesses as possible. Overnight train storage would be a waste.

But I think the main issue is that the MSF needs to be contiguous and the parking lot by itself might not be enough space, compared to the several properties Metrolinx needs for the yard, wash facility, painting/truing areas.
 

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With the v-a-s-t parking lots around the Science Centre Station, they have plenty of land available for a MSF. Are there any plans currently for replacing the parking lot at the Ontario Science Centre for example?
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An MSF at a major intersection of two arteries and two rapid transit lines?
 

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There will be TWO terminal stations for the "Ontario" Line. Science Centre Station for the northeast terminal, and Exhibition Station for the southwest terminal.

Terminal stations should be feeding the "Ontario" Line.

Kipling Station and Vaughan Metropolitan Station (still don't like that name) are terminal stations, with many feeder bus routes feeding them. Scarborough Town Centre for the Line 2 extension and High Tech Station (?) for the Line 1 extension should have feeders routes coming into them, once they open.

"Ontario" Line's Science Centre Station will be fed from the north via Don Mills Road and Line 5.

"Ontario" Line's Exhibition Station will be fed from the west from ?

Likely the 29 DUFFERIN, 63 OSSINGTON, 511 BATHURST, and 509 HARBOURFRONT would feed some riders. 121 FORT YORK-ESPLANADE maybe very few riders. However, from the west? The Lakeshore West GO Train may feed some riders, IF (and its a big IF) there is some sort fare discount between GO and the TTC (thank you, Doug Ford, for that).

The Waterfront West Line (507?) needs to be bumped up to better feed riders from The Queensway and Lake Shore Boulevard West from Mimico, New Toronto, and Long Branch. Maybe a Queensway streetcar line in Etobicoke could be created, replacing 80 QUEENSWAY bus, from Sherway Gardens. Too bad the "Waterfront Transit Reset" put a stop, or just a "reset", to those plans.

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Why not just take GO? With electrification we should be seeing frequent high speed rail service that can bring riders to Ex or downtown. Streetcar/LRT is for local service.

Will we be able to transfer from GO to the "Ontario" Line for free, or at least a discount, by the time the "Ontario" Line opens? What if I want to go to the Science Centre from Port Credit?


Discount for GO Transit, TTC riders ends March 31 (2020) after province pulls funding

Ford government announced last year it would not fund program

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Ontario's regional transit agency says a subsidy that provides discounted fares for riders using GO Transit and Toronto's transit system in the same trip will ends March 31.

Metrolinx says funding for the program was reached under a three-year deal with the province, but Premier Doug Ford's government said last year it would not be renewed.
The agency — which runs GO trains and buses through the Greater Toronto and Hamilton region — says it hoped to work with the Toronto Transit Commission to sustain the program but no agreement has been reached.

The program was launched by the previous Liberal government in 2017 and offers riders using both systems a $1.50 discount for a single trip when using a Presto fare card.

The province paid $18.4 million a year to offset the cost of the discount for both transit agencies, but the Progressive Conservatives have said the funding was designed to be temporary.

The program, called Discounted Double Fare, proved popular, with the discount exceeding its budget by $2.6 million in 2018-2019 and an estimated $6.7 million in 2019-2020.
 

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What I don't get, is the closest bit to Overlea is the traction power substation. There's a lot of other places that could go, that would leave more space for dense commercial along Overlea.

I have to wonder if the rocket scientists who draw these maps have ever been to Toronto.
 

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Based on his map 2/3 mosques will be expropriated but not the new one. However, imagine a whole new train depot the size of "24 Soccer Fields" being built beside your mosque. Plus they may also require some of the space for a bus station loop which still hasn't been positioned on the map. It will likely require the parking lot of the new mosque at minimum. i.e. the space behind the number 2 on the map.

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There is also something funny about not limiting the yard to only the north side of Banigan Dr. by lengthening it.

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Anyhoo, there is a thread for fare integration:


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Incidental reference to this project in a report on new school priorities to the Planning and Priorities Ctte of the TDSB on April 6th.

Link here: https://pub-tdsb.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=8381

From said report:

A new elementary school is required to support rapid intensification that is occurring in the West Don Lands area of the central waterfront. The Board already owns a school site within the new neighbourhood, Block 9. The Block 9 site will be utilized by Metrolinx for constructing the Ontario Line until 2027. Staff will be working with Metrolinx to ensure the new school can be constructed as soon as Metrolinx leaves the site.
 

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Incidental reference to this project in a report on new school priorities to the Planning and Priorities Ctte of the TDSB on April 6th.

Link here: https://pub-tdsb.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=8381

From said report:

A new elementary school is required to support rapid intensification that is occurring in the West Don Lands area of the central waterfront. The Board already owns a school site within the new neighbourhood, Block 9. The Block 9 site will be utilized by Metrolinx for constructing the Ontario Line until 2027. Staff will be working with Metrolinx to ensure the new school can be constructed as soon as Metrolinx leaves the site.

I always have to remind myself of where the blocks are, so here's a map.

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HT @AlvinofDiaspar from this post:

 

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