nfitz
Superstar
The start of winter is the solstice - which doesn't depend on the date. Winter then would start December 8 for those who haven't yet converted.
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Ontario Line (was Relief Line South, in Design)
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
That was why we updated with the Gregorian calendar. The seasons were moving too far.
From link.
The pagan celebration of Saturn, the Roman god of agriculture and time, began as a single day, but by the late Republic (133-31 B.C.) it had expanded to a weeklong festival beginning December 17. (On the Julian calendar, which the Romans used at the time, the winter solstice fell on December 25.)
superelevation
New Member
Longitudinal seating makes a ton of sense for Metros, given when this is meant to open I am sure we will get LCDs.
nfitz
Superstar
For short trips perhaps - not suitable for what is effectively a suburban commuter train.
What is long term plan for Ontario Line. Ends at Eglinton forever - probably a non-issue. Heads north to Richmond Hill and takes over the Richmond Hill line to Lincolnville? No ...
Johnny Au
Senior Member
The New York City subway trains all also use longitudinal seating and many of their lines are long.
Yes, I personally prefer some perpendicular seating.
allengeorge
Active Member
I think the R train and the F train use L-shaped banks, but yeah - mostly longitudinal.
nfitz
Superstar
Indeed - and what many of our politicians referred to as "cattle cars" the last time TTC considered it.
I'm not sure MTA service and maintenance values are what we should be aiming for.
micheal_can
Senior Member
Why? They have a massive system and a higher ridership than the TTC.
t54zhao
New Member
And decaying infrastructure, rats everywhere, low service etc.
nfitz
Superstar
To be fair, things have slowly started to improve there, in terms of maintenance. Things looked a bit better last time I was there, and there was noticeably less smell of urine in spots it had been always there.
But in terms of operations - trains are so infrequent at times off-peak - and still packed full on weekends - despite the much lower frequency than weekdays. And the bus frequencies are disgraceful, despite being very full off-peak.
Have to give TTC and other Canadian systems credit on better maintenance.
asher__jo
Active Member
REM is very much a hybrid of subway and commuter, much like the SkyTrain is.
nfitz
Superstar
Ah that's an interesting example. Despite the very narrow cars (just less than 2.5 metres - same as Line 3 and narrower than a Toronto streetcar and even a Montreal subway car), they've switched from perimeter seating to a lot of forward facing seating in new vehicles (and added walkways between the cars).
See the walkthrough in this video. Shame we won't be seeing these on an upgraded and extended Line 3.
New SkyTrain cars hit the tracks, with less seats but better A/C
Just in time for the hot spell, new SkyTrain cars have arrived - with improved air conditioning.
globalnews.ca
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Since Doug Ford is a non-transit user, expect narrow cars and perimeter seating, since he wouldn't be using it on a regular basis. Except for photo-ops of course.
NoahB
Active Member
These jokes are getting stale...
There is nothing stopping perimeter seating from being chosen by the bidders, especially when they try to compensate for smaller trains.
officedweller
Senior Member
Ah that's an interesting example. Despite the very narrow cars (just less than 2.5 metres - same as Line 3 and narrower than a Toronto streetcar and even a Montreal subway car), they've switched from perimeter seating to a lot of forward facing seating in new vehicles (and added walkways between the cars).
See the walkthrough in this video. Shame we won't be seeing these on an upgraded and extended Line 3.
New SkyTrain cars hit the tracks, with less seats but better A/C
Just in time for the hot spell, new SkyTrain cars have arrived - with improved air conditioning.
Space down the aisle is created with just the single seat on one side while still having a double seat on the other - like on buses.
In 2016, TransLink did a trial seat removal near the doors on Canada Line, but not sure what became of it. Note the seats are cantilevered from one side for easy underseat storage and cleaning (unlike low floor LRT)
Seating capacity reduced on overcrowded Canada Line trains in pilot project | News
Some Canada Line trains have had 10 seats removed from the interior in an effort to boost overall capacity, improve passenger circulation, and reduce door crowding.
dailyhive.com
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