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miWay Transit

jeicow said:
It was formally proposed as part of the Rapid Ready fleet strategy in 2013, and since then the City has procured land, undertaken an EA, completed (or nearly completed) detailed design, have funds allocated in the municipal capital budget and DC background study, have applied for $190 million in federal funding, have a Contract Administrator on-board once the money comes through, and is undertaking works to improve the primary access to address flooding and substandard bridge clearance. Nearly all of this has happened in the last three years. I'd argue that they're moving forward fairly aggressively.
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Glad to hear they've been starting to get aggressive with it over there, and have been taking the steps to finally get the garage into fruition. A new garage is more badly needed in Hamilton compared to the situation in Mississauga.

Thats not to say that Mississauga doesn't need a new garage, because they will with the service expansion plans that have been planning for a while now.
 
I’m pretty sure Malton should have more space since they retired some 06s and I think all of the 2008 D60LFR buses are done, they haven’t been in service since May 20-25th. If CP has no space for buses, they can at least send 5-10 buses up to Malton and have them dispatched on CP routes. I found the back Malton Employee loot where I never see any parked cars, and looks good enough to store buses. DFCEC030-4CF2-4214-8DB7-0B8C7D86C673.png
 
According to a report going to Mississauga council next week, MiWay and TTC are moving forward on a project to integrate service and fares within Etobicoke.

The proposed project will see restrictions on MiWay buses within Etobicoke removed and MiWay will be allowed to pick up and discharge passengers, as well as collect fares. With changes to fare policy and PRESTO software changes, cross-boundary service integration (including to and from the subway system) will be possible.

The first phase will consist of the Dundas, Bloor and Burnhamthorpe corridors, with a pilot phase being conducted starting in Fall 2021. MiWay's route 76 will be re-routed along Burnhamthorpe east to Islington Station and then to Kipling Terminal. With this change, MiWay routes 26 and 76 will provide all service on Burnhamthorpe within Etobicoke and TTC route 50 will be eliminated.

MiWay will add 2 peak buses on route 76 to add capacity.

In the future, service on Bloor Street within Etobicoke is proposed to be assumed fully by MiWay routes 3 Bloor and a re-routing of 20 Rathburn via Mill Road, allowing for TTC route 49 to be eliminated.

Service on Dundas in Etobicoke will also be integrated in the future with MiWay buses picking up and discharging passengers, but no removal of TTC service is proposed on this stretch.

Report: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeet...DwxcmxIFD0xKruKBpSDGrOuQXq5ItSUeetPuJ2V2z4cyI
 
sillytilley said:
According to a report going to Mississauga council next week, MiWay and TTC are moving forward on a project to integrate service and fares within Etobicoke.

The proposed project will see restrictions on MiWay buses within Etobicoke removed and MiWay will be allowed to pick up and discharge passengers, as well as collect fares. With changes to fare policy and PRESTO software changes, cross-boundary service integration (including to and from the subway system) will be possible.

The first phase will consist of the Dundas, Bloor and Burnhamthorpe corridors, with a pilot phase being conducted starting in Fall 2021. MiWay's route 76 will be re-routed along Burnhamthorpe east to Islington Station and then to Kipling Terminal. With this change, MiWay routes 26 and 76 will provide all service on Burnhamthorpe within Etobicoke and TTC route 50 will be eliminated.

MiWay will add 2 peak buses on route 76 to add capacity.

In the future, service on Bloor Street within Etobicoke is proposed to be assumed fully by MiWay routes 3 Bloor and a re-routing of 20 Rathburn via Mill Road, allowing for TTC route 49 to be eliminated.

Service on Dundas in Etobicoke will also be integrated in the future with MiWay buses picking up and discharging passengers, but no removal of TTC service is proposed on this stretch.

Report: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeet...DwxcmxIFD0xKruKBpSDGrOuQXq5ItSUeetPuJ2V2z4cyI
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I really have to laugh at this as it long over due as well finally going to happen. In all my reports to TTC Commissioners meetings and Council since 2003, I have called for miWay to take over these 2 routes since it would provide better service to TTC riders as well reduce Mississauga operation cost in Toronto, especially for 26. Without some support for route 3 by TTC, it would be a blood bath for that route. TTC would walk away with 6 buses and over $1.5 Million cost saving with Mississauga taking over TTC Routes, considering they were part of 20 bus routes on TTC chopping blocks since the 90's.

The question for route 49 riders, will they have to spend 7 extra minute travel time on 3 and 20 going to the Kipling Transit Hub not the TTC Kipling Bus Terminal like they do today both ways??? The other option is a TTC bay be setup with a fare systems to get Mississauga riders to pay their TTC fare. How will enforcement of fare be handle departing TTC bay??

Route 26 and 76 have to be beef up on the weekend, especially on Sunday as 26 is a pit for service that day caused by 7 riders that screw it for everyone.

Will YRT be doing this for some of TTC routes in the coming years as well as it should happen???
 
sillytilley said:
According to a report going to Mississauga council next week, MiWay and TTC are moving forward on a project to integrate service and fares within Etobicoke.

The proposed project will see restrictions on MiWay buses within Etobicoke removed and MiWay will be allowed to pick up and discharge passengers, as well as collect fares. With changes to fare policy and PRESTO software changes, cross-boundary service integration (including to and from the subway system) will be possible.

The first phase will consist of the Dundas, Bloor and Burnhamthorpe corridors, with a pilot phase being conducted starting in Fall 2021. MiWay's route 76 will be re-routed along Burnhamthorpe east to Islington Station and then to Kipling Terminal. With this change, MiWay routes 26 and 76 will provide all service on Burnhamthorpe within Etobicoke and TTC route 50 will be eliminated.

MiWay will add 2 peak buses on route 76 to add capacity.

In the future, service on Bloor Street within Etobicoke is proposed to be assumed fully by MiWay routes 3 Bloor and a re-routing of 20 Rathburn via Mill Road, allowing for TTC route 49 to be eliminated.

Service on Dundas in Etobicoke will also be integrated in the future with MiWay buses picking up and discharging passengers, but no removal of TTC service is proposed on this stretch.

Report: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeet...DwxcmxIFD0xKruKBpSDGrOuQXq5ItSUeetPuJ2V2z4cyI
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Excellent news. A potential win-win in terms of cost-efficiency and service.

It should not only afford equal or better service to Toronto riders, but to Mississauga ones as well, which then see a knock-on benefit on the Mississauga portion of the routes.
 
Currently if someone boards a MiWay bus in Mississauga and end their journey at the Kipling MiWay terminal, do they have to pay a double fare (MiWay + TTC)?
 
allengeorge said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1400614681270702083
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Reading the links, it seems the province is at least trying to get something moving and get the different agencies talking about integrating service and fares. Hopefully we see more fruits of this. Because of the idiocy of lack of integration and service we had to build two separate bus terminals for TTC buses and YRT buses at Pioneer Village station instead of having one bus terminal. The Liberals were here for 15 years and didn't do anything about it.
 
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ShonTron said:
It's too bad, then, that the transfer from Miway to the TTC subway and connecting buses will be so awful.
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If TTC hadn't drag their feet on extending the subway extension proposed in early 2000's to Cloverdale, then there would been only one bus terminal there that would handling 2-4 bus systems as well reducing operation cost for everyone today.

It takes a normal person 7 minutes to walk between the 2 Kipling terminals today.

For me and others, faster to walk to/from the Auckland stop for the 3 on good weather days that we save that 7 minute walk, as that travel time is almost equal to the time for the bus to get to or from the bus terminal.

TTC riders who ride the 50 will now have to walk outside to catch the 26 or 76 and get off at the main entrance that will be faster walking to the fare area than the bus ride to the terminal like today.

The Liberals may had 15 years to do this, but when the boat is wrong, it takes years to fix and still on going today. TTC was the elephant in the room opposing this type of move.

COVID-19 has done TTC a favour as it allows them to deal with issues related to 20 plus routes that been on the chopping block since the 90's.

We may start to see the plan that been around since 2007 of spitting the routes up so other can bid on them like York Region does with 113 being piss off at that idea. Them it the plan to have one system using the same uniform for the GTAH with Metrolinx owning all the rolling stock.
 
Deadpool X said:
Currently if someone boards a MiWay bus in Mississauga and end their journey at the Kipling MiWay terminal, do they have to pay a double fare (MiWay + TTC)?
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No. There are also no fare gates at the new hub as you pay directly on the MiWay buses. As of right now MiWay only drops off Toronto bound, and only picks up Sauga bound, but see below…

allengeorge said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1400614681270702083
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Are we finally getting somewhere with Metro Toronto?! Imagine the possibilities we could go with this…
 
Adjei said:
Reading the links, it seems the province is at least trying to get something moving and get the different agencies talking about integrating service and fares. Hopefully we see more fruits of this. Because of the idiocy of lack of integration and service we had to build two separate bus terminals for TTC buses and YRT buses at Pioneer Village station instead of having one bus terminal. The Liberals were here for 15 years and didn't do anything about it.
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Yeah - the PCs are really delivering on the transit file. Here’s hoping that the GO electrification contract gets awarded and this focus continues.
 
allengeorge said:
Yeah - the PCs are really delivering on the transit file. Here’s hoping that the GO electrification contract gets awarded and this focus continues.
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The PCs also refused to renew the GO-TTC transfer discount, so I don't really see how they are "delivering" on these small initiatives that are primarily inter-municipal agreements. GO electrification has been in the works for years. The one thing you can give this government some credit for is accelerating several transit projects, though the merits of a fully tunneled Eglinton West LRT extension is rather dubious.
 
ShonTron said:
The PCs also refused to renew the GO-TTC transfer discount, so I don't really see how they are "delivering" on these small initiatives that are primarily inter-municipal agreements.
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That’s fair. I thought this was tied to the recent round tables on fare integration that was mentioned here.
 
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