JasonParis
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This was a live music venue for a few years around 1993-1995. It was called The Palladium. Smashing Pumpkins played here for one. I remember seeing Suede and Frente there as well.October 7th addition.
Now: October 6, 2009.
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Miscellany Toronto Photographs: Then and Now
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Goldie
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thecharioteer
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These recent photos of the area around Rosedale valley put me in mind of the oft overlooked covered bridge between Sherbourne and Castle Frank subway: probably the most beautiful brutalist structure in the city…
Reminscent of the work of the brilliant Swiss engineer Robert Maillart:
thecharioteer
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i once read that the reason Bloor jogs east of Sherbourne on its way to meet the Viaduct was because of neighbourhood pressure put on the route by Rosedale residents. I think it's clear from WWWebster's map below and Goldie's photos, that the route was chosen because it was cheaper to follow the tableland south of the Rosedale ravine and avoid a longer bridge going easterly:
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thecharioteer
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Brilliant analysis of that site, wwwebster! Well-done!
Conrad Black
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Yes Bloor jogs south to avoid building a super long bridge over Rosedale Valley.
wwwebster
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thecharioteer said:
Thank you!
Mustapha
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DC83, Thank you! Amazing stuff, this Google Streetview, isn't it?
I don't see it as competition; I see it as 'Urban Toronto consumers' now have a choice of product options: The impersonal
Streetview or Mustapha's ChoiceTM . Tell me, what would you rather take home to mom?October 15 addition.
Tell borrow a line from urbandreamer, where are we?
Ah, those of you who had to look at the second picture; that's cheating.
Anna
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I read recently (in "Unbuilt Toronto" I think) that someone (a politician?) thought that as a major thoroughfare, it was important the Bloor be straight - with one long viaduct - but someone else (an engineer?) figured out it was easier to fill in the south slope of the valley and put the road there.
The Rosedale valley portion of viaduct was also built with room for the subway underneath, but the curve was too sharp for the trains so they had to build the separate bridge, with no view.
Blovertis
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Poor Howard Street. Its north side once sported a row of handsome houses (one or two are left) that looked onto Rosedale Valley. I suppose that Bloor East cut through their backyards and seriously harmed property values, leaving them vulnerable to neglect and eventually demolition. The south side of Howard, as everyone can see, was torn down for St. James Town.
Poor Castle Frank Road. Many grand houses were demolished to accommodate the Bloor Street extension. The residents on the south stump (now Castle Frank Crescent) are still trying to figure out whether they actually live in Rosedale or not.
Poor Castle Frank Road. Many grand houses were demolished to accommodate the Bloor Street extension. The residents on the south stump (now Castle Frank Crescent) are still trying to figure out whether they actually live in Rosedale or not.
Anna
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That's what I used to think, but after looking at the 1910 Goad's Atlas - I'm not so sure. It looks like Castle Frank Crescent was always a separate street - but now lots 29-31 face onto Bloor.
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Earlscourt_Lad
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that part of Lakeshore called Fleet Street at the time of your before photo?
Goldie
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billyfly
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DavidJamesTO
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I can't remember what it was, but there was a reason it wasn't used. I think it had to do with lining it up at each end.