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Metrolinx: GTHA Fare Integration

TOareaFan

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I'm just saying they'd have my business if I didn't pay the same price to go three subway stops as someone from Scarborough going to Etobicoke.
That sounds like you are saying you would be equally moved to use transit for your short trips if they left your fare alone and hiked the Scarborough-Etobicoke fare to $5!;)
 

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I'm not sure if this is the best thread or I should put this in the GO Service thread, but here's the latest question on the previous government's proposal to implement $3 GO fares and the response from the current government, which is basically no decision has been made on if it'll happen. They've noted previously they didn't run on this specific commitment.

https://twitter.com/JessicaBellTO/status/1052651825634062338 [video of the Q and A from QP]
 

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^I consider this dead. It's a shame. You can build all the transit but if people can't afford it they are not going to ride it.
 

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^I consider this dead. It's a shame. You can build all the transit but if people can't afford it they are not going to ride it.
Capacity has an even larger influence than price. The price doesn't matter much if you can't get on the train. If GO had a bunch of capacity to spare, as it did on UPX, then it makes sense to lower the rate. At this point expansion needs every dollar it can get even without a reduced fare incentive.

Second, with a 2025 RER completion date even a 2-term Ford government will be out of office pretty soon after it's operating. The 2026 election can be over GO fare subsidies.
 

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There is absolutely no analogy here. Luxembourg, in large part due to it`s money laundering, is a far wealthier country than Canada in a physical area of a large Ontario county, with one/100th Canada`s population. A better analogy would be if they started having free transit in Berlin.
 

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Capacity has an even larger influence than price. The price doesn't matter much if you can't get on the train. If GO had a bunch of capacity to spare, as it did on UPX, then it makes sense to lower the rate. At this point expansion needs every dollar it can get even without a reduced fare incentive.

Second, with a 2025 RER completion date even a 2-term Ford government will be out of office pretty soon after it's operating. The 2026 election can be over GO fare subsidies.
While there maybe capacity issues in rush hour, that is not the case off peak or on weekends in fact it's quite the opposite with tons of spare capacity.. Full fare integration or better yet just a TTC fare for all Toronto GO riders in non-rush hours would not be an issue and is fairly common in the world. It would also tend to help the people who need it most and are the most sensitive to prices...……….lower paying service sector employees relatively few of whom work standard 9 to 5 office hours.
 

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"Go fare pilot begins for travel between Kennedy stop and Toronto Union Station - TTC riders among those to benefit from new option and lower price" from Metrolinx's blog. To summarize, Metrolinx will reduce the GO fare between Union and Kennedy to $3.70 for 18 months starting on Saturday, November 23, 2019. This is a drop from the current $4.75 fare to travel between the two stops. The pilot also includes fares between Exhibition and Kennedy which will also be dropped to $3.70 (blog post didn't specify by how much). Add this with the $1.50 TTC fare and the total for most commuter will come out to be $5.20 one-way. Hopefully this will provide, even just, a bit of short term relief for Bloor-Yonge station. Even if it doesn't, it still opens up the precedent for more fare integration as GO service ramps up train service and gives lower income riders a much faster alternative than the milk run on the Bloor-Danforth line.
 
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