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Metrolinx: Finch West LRT

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*Cross-Posted to the Crosstown Thread*

From a report headed to next week's TTC meeting we learn:
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Report Link here: https://ttc-cdn.azureedge.net/-/med...037ecac&hash=F38A932DC3CCAC2977C5B60D82F4017D
 

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So weird they didn't plan for having these at the stops. Also means they're just gonna be awkwardly shoved onto the platforms, rather than intelligently integrated into the design (like how Ottawa integrated it's fare vending machines into the "Lantern" at the entrance of each station)
 

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So weird they didn't plan for having these at the stops. Also means they're just gonna be awkwardly shoved onto the platforms, rather than intelligently integrated into the design (like how Ottawa integrated it's fare vending machines into the "Lantern" at the entrance of each station)
The line is built by Metrolinx. The fare system is run by TTC. Sounds like the 2 didn't talk about it.
 

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lol what - they specced out the lines without fare vending machines? Did they just expect no non-presto users would use those stations?
Why are you surprised? Like the viva stops or other BRT/LRT system. Surface stops don't usually sell smartcards or tickets as people are more likely to attempt to vandalize them.

Anyways, inline with other systems, a set of card readers and a cash collection ticket machine would be installed. Similar to what's onboard the streetcars. They can print you a transfer for paying cash or what someone systems do is issue an activated single use presto ticket to be used immediately.

What this proposal meant to do is to allow users to buy and load presto cards or presto tickets for future use. So they don't have to go to a subway station or Shoppers to get access.
 

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When the Toronto Transportation Commission (now the Toronto Transit Commission) was created in 1921, it was "conceived" out of the Toronto Civic Railway (1912-`921). It got "experience" from the TCR and with "adjustments" was able to run the TTC successfully (until inexperienced politicians started interfering with it).

Metrolinx (2006-present) only had experience running GO trains and buses, not local rapid transit. Still trying to get experience.
 

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Why are you surprised? Like the viva stops or other BRT/LRT system. Surface stops don't usually sell smartcards or tickets as people are more likely to attempt to vandalize them.
As a GRT ION and GO Transit passenger, this is news to me.

The report makes it sound like previously you could only board if you have a Presto card with money already on it, which isn't great. If you can't turn up at a stop or station and pay your fare in cash, people are going to get left out - not everyone has a debit card, or enough time and money to go buy a Presto card.
 

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As a GRT ION and GO Transit passenger, this is news to me.

The report makes it sound like previously you could only board if you have a Presto card with money already on it, which isn't great. If you can't turn up at a stop or station and pay your fare in cash, people are going to get left out - not everyone has a debit card, or enough time and money to go buy a Presto card.
Read what I said again. You won't be screwed. There will be a vending machine that you dump your coins in and it'll print you a receipt which is your proof of payment.

The inconvenience is the same as paper transfers. You can't use fare gates at stations and they can't implement tap out to exit the system at stations either.
 

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Read what I said again. You won't be screwed. There will be a vending machine that you dump your coins in and it'll print you a receipt which is your proof of payment.
Why do ticket vending machines get vandalize, but vending machines that give out transfer don't?

The inconvenience is the same as paper transfers. You can't use fare gates at stations and they can't implement tap out to exit the system at stations either.
Fear not, in the TTC/Presto contract, they committed to providing tappable paper "receipts". (if only the lawyers at Metrolinx spoke to the technical staff ...)
 

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