drum118
Superstar
Has to deal with vision impair folks in Ontario under OADA requirements.
Been on systems in the US that nether show/announce stops or door closing/opening since its not part of their ADA requirements.
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Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
- Start date
Been on systems in the US that nether show/announce stops or door closing/opening since its not part of their ADA requirements.
Kyle Campbell
Active Member
Here's hoping that the Crosstown will have better launch luck then either Ottawa or KW
TheRecord.com: Ion train defects delay higher-frequency LRT service in Waterloo, Kitchener.
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TheRecord.com: Ion train defects delay higher-frequency LRT service in Waterloo, Kitchener.
Ion train defects delay higher-frequency LRT service in Waterloo, Kitchener
'We need those trains in for repair,' transit director says.
Steve X
Senior Member
They'll have the same problems as the streetcars. MDBF might be higher than the streetcars since stations are further apart thus the doors don't open as much. Given that the streetcars are near the end of the run and they are still coming in with plenty of defects, there is no hope for these LRVs to be delivered in better conditions. Hopefully these are just teething issues that will be resolved within a year.Here's hoping that the Crosstown will have better launch luck then either Ottawa or KW
TheRecord.com: Ion train defects delay higher-frequency LRT service in Waterloo, Kitchener.
Ion train defects delay higher-frequency LRT service in Waterloo, Kitchener
'We need those trains in for repair,' transit director says.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Pictures of inside the Brampton Alstom plant:
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Does anyone know if the centre poles on the Alstrom cars are structural or are they just some option that Ottawa went with for some reason as they seem to be a real hindrance to people getting around the train?
Kyle Campbell
Active Member
Ottawa choice, the Metrolinx ones don't have them, at least on the mockup. We're expecting to be standing room only most of the time up here in Ottawa, hence the stanchions
Within the GTA centre stanchions seem to be out of favour since they impede flow, but besides Ottawa Montreal also still uses them
But I believe Vancouver, Edmonton, and Calgary do not.
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smallspy
Senior Member
Ottawa choice, the Metrolinx ones don't have them, at least on the mockup. We're expecting to be standing room only most of the time up here in Ottawa, hence the stanchions
Within the GTA centre stanchions seem to be out of favour since they impede flow, but besides Ottawa Montreal also still uses them
But I believe Vancouver, Edmonton, and Calgary do not.
On the TTC at least, centre poles are seen as verboten due to the findings of the Coroner's Inquiry stemming from the Russell Hill subway collision. That decision may have carried over to the design of the LRT cars that they will be operating - even if they aren't the ones ordering them.
Dan
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Some great shots of the Alstom factory in Brampton. Looks like lots of progress is being made.
cplchanb
Senior Member
when do they intend to start production of the first LRVs?
drum118
Superstar
It would have to be in 2020 to meet Finch and Hurontario opening day schedule. Then there is the Crosstown line.
Steve X
Senior Member
When ML wants them to and they love pushing the date on everything. It should be next year but the Finch West MSF isn't due for completion till 2022. Probably won't have tracks till mid/late-2021. Maybe they will deliver it to Mount Dennis MSF if ML really desires to have time in hands. The Ottawa LRVs will keep the Brampton site busy.
treplow
New Member
As an aside, I've noticed that US transit systems tend to use male voices for automated stop announcements, whereas in Canada it's almost always female. Wonder why that is.
KevinT
Active Member
I find a male voice authoritative and a female voice comforting, and the mindsets of the two countries to be similar.
Kyle Campbell
Active Member
Ottawa and Edmonton use male voices, so it's not unheard of here, just more rare.
drum118
Superstar
Had a look at the mock up Alstom car today and a few changes from BBD cars. No door by the driver and back where doors open on both sides. Slope at the doors and see no reason for it if door level match the platforms like other systems in the US. The floor slopes up from the door area to the drive door. Small step to get a seat over the wheels. Driver compartment smaller than BBD cars and others I have seen so far.
Otherwise, see no real change, but this is only a small section considering the car is to be 45 m long. Will have a better review of the car when I see Ottawa car in Sept.
Otherwise, see no real change, but this is only a small section considering the car is to be 45 m long. Will have a better review of the car when I see Ottawa car in Sept.