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Ion Light Rail (Kitchener-Waterloo) & King/Victoria Transit Terminal

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The chimes pre-date Bombardier's involvement in Toronto transit projects by many years. They were first used on the SRT - built by UTDC.

For the record, there is an off-the-shelf IC that produces that exact tone and timing, and which is what used to be used in the SRT cars. It wouldn't surprise me to find that it was used elsewhere for the same reason.

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Well that explains why Bombardier adopted it when they absorbed UTDC
 

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We still have signal heads bagged and crossover switches being thrown manually out here.
The bags came off of the signal heads at the embedded crossover at Green St on Sunday, and off of those at the Cameron St embedded crossover yesterday. While ten days before the start of service seems to be cutting it awfully close, in hindsight they could probably have started operations with these crossovers still operated manually. Had an incident occurred which required segmenting the system, the points at one end could be left flipped with a Line Officer posted at the other to move them back and forth under radio contact with the approaching and departing LRVs. That said, I am glad that they've got all of the automation functional ahead of the launch. It bodes well for a smooth launch day service.
 

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#3 :(

CTV News: Collision between car, LRT snarls traffic in Kitchener

"I didn't know what a No Left Turn sign meant, then it hit me."
The article says it was at the intersection of Green and King - but it isn't. It's the driveway for Central Meat Market in front of KWCVI. Which begs the question why it even got a crossing over the tracks in the first place - some nearby streets don't get a crossing - but a store does?

Looking at the location in Google Streetview. Yeah, there's a no left-turn sign. But why does the traffic light just show a circular green, rather than directional arrows? That could have helped. And why no U-Turn sign (which is what they was doing)?

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The article says it was at the intersection of Green and King - but it isn't. It's the driveway for Central Meat Market in front of KWCVI. Which begs the question why it even got a crossing over the tracks in the first place - some nearby streets don't get a crossing - but a store does?

Looking at the location in Google Streetview. Yeah, there's a no left-turn sign. But why does the traffic light just show a circular green, rather than directional arrows? That could have helped. And why no U-Turn sign (which is what they was doing)?

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The streetview for this particular intersection is from October 2018. Since then, a no U-turn sign was installed there and is clearly visible in this tweet. As for why it's a round light, right turns are permitted into the driveway.
 

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The streetview for this particular intersection is from October 2018. Since then, a no U-turn sign was installed there and is clearly visible in this tweet. As for why it's a round light, right turns are permitted into the driveway.
Ah, that should have helped.

Use two arrows like this:

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All I can say is that this is not a dastardly plan to stop Ion from opening before the confed line 🕵️‍♂️
Shouldn't delay anything, unless someone things that a redesign of the road is necessary.

That's what the spare ratio is for. There's 14 cars? So presumably only 11 are needed for service. Looking at the schedule ... round trip is 100 minutes (with 7 minutes turnaround at Fairway and 5 minutes at Conestoga Mall). So only need 10 cars to do peak (6 cars an hour) service. Gosh, that's a 29% spare ratio ... should be fine!

With a couple more cars (to 16) and a 17% spare ratio, they could just about do every 7.5 minutes service. (8 cars an hour).
 
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Ah, that should have helped.

Use two arrows like this:

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There used to be dual green arrows (straight and right) at intersections that also had protected left turns in Ontario, but those were removed because a green right arrow indicates that right-turning traffic has the compete right of way, conflicting with pedestrians that might also be in the intersection and have right of way. Now you'll only see them where traffic completely has the right of way, such as at protected right turns (like York Street/Lake Shore), or at the end of a one-way ramp.

But the left signal should get a straight arrow, with the right one getting a regular green ball. The MTO did this on Highway 144 near Sudbury.
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There used to be dual green arrows (straight and right) at intersections that also had protected left turns in Ontario, but those were removed because a green right arrow indicates that right-turning traffic has the compete right of way, conflicting with pedestrians that might also be in the intersection and have right of way.
That's a very good point.

I wonder if a red left-turn arrow that's always on would help ... entirely redundant, but drivers seem to see traffic lights more than signage. Or something kind of like those flashing no left turns you see in Toronto in rush hour.
 

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Ah, that should have helped.

Use two arrows like this:

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Shouldn't delay anything, unless someone things that a redesign of the road is necessary.

That's what the spare ratio is for. There's 14 cars? So presumably only 11 are needed for service. Looking at the schedule ... round trip is 100 minutes (with 7 minutes turnaround at Fairway and 5 minutes at Conestoga Mall). So only need 10 cars to do peak (6 cars an hour) service. Gosh, that's a 29% spare ratio ... should be fine!

With a couple more cars (to 16) and a 17% spare ratio, they could just about do every 7.5 minutes service. (8 cars an hour).
The MTO (Ontario) is way behind other jurisdictions. For example, from this link:

What the arrows mean
red signal light
Solid red arrow: Drivers intending to turn left must stop and wait. Do not enter an intersection to turn when a solid red arrow is being displayed​
solid yellow arrow
Solid yellow arrow: The left-turn signal is about to change to red and drivers should prepare to stop or prepare to complete a left turn if they are legally within the intersection and there is no conflicting traffic present.​
flashing yellow arrow
Flashing yellow arrow: Drivers are allowed to turn left after yielding to all oncoming traffic and to any pedestrians in the crosswalk. Oncoming traffic has a green light. Drivers must wait for a safe gap in oncoming traffic before turning.​
green signal light
Solid green arrow: Left turns have the right of way. Oncoming traffic has a red light.​

PDF at this link on the flashing yellow arrow.

 

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The MTO (Ontario) is way behind other jurisdictions. For example, from this link:

What the arrows mean
red signal light
Solid red arrow: Drivers intending to turn left must stop and wait. Do not enter an intersection to turn when a solid red arrow is being displayed​
solid yellow arrow
Solid yellow arrow: The left-turn signal is about to change to red and drivers should prepare to stop or prepare to complete a left turn if they are legally within the intersection and there is no conflicting traffic present.​
flashing yellow arrow
Flashing yellow arrow: Drivers are allowed to turn left after yielding to all oncoming traffic and to any pedestrians in the crosswalk. Oncoming traffic has a green light. Drivers must wait for a safe gap in oncoming traffic before turning.​
green signal light
Solid green arrow: Left turns have the right of way. Oncoming traffic has a red light.​

PDF at this link on the flashing yellow arrow.

We saw Flashing Solid Red & Yellow Arrows our our trip in May in the US. Flashing Red means you must come to a complete stop and only turn when its safe to do so. Flashing solid Yellow means you can only turn when its safe to do so.

What stood out most, there were next to no traffic lights stand in the middle of the road. This goes back years ago when first travel to the US and Miami where the traffic light arm cover all lanes. There is an arrow for advance green or a red one saying no turning while the lights are green for the through lanes. Seen the similar in Quebec and other places as well.
 
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