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San Francisco bans plastic bags
In six months large supermarkets will not be allowed to offer plastic bags made from petroleum products

Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO — City leaders approved a ban on plastic grocery bags after weeks of lobbying on both sides from environmentalists and a supermarket trade group.

If Mayor Gavin Newsom signs the ban as expected, San Francisco would be the first U.S. city to adopt such a rule.

The law, passed by a 10-1 vote, requires large markets and drug stores to give customers only a choice among bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.

San Francisco supervisors and supporters said that by banning the petroleum-based sacks, blamed for littering streets and choking marine life, the measure would go a long way toward helping the city earn its green stripes.

"Hopefully, other cities and states will follow suit," said Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, who crafted the ban after trying to get a 15-cent per bag tax passed in 2005.

The 50 grocery stores that would be most affected by the law argued that the ban was not reasonable because plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product. Some said they might offer only paper bags at checkout.

"I think what grocers will do now that this has passed is, they will review all their options and decide what they think works best for them economically," said David Heylen, a spokesman for the California Grocers Association.

Mr. Newsom supported the measure. The switch is scheduled to take effect in six months for grocery stores and in one year for pharmacies.

Craig Noble, a spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said it would be disappointing if grocers rejected the biodegradable plastic bag option, since more trees would have to be cut down if paper bag use increases.

The new breed of bags "offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma," Noble said.

The Manitoba town of Leaf Rapids, a community of about 600 people 975 kilometres northeast of Winnipeg, will vote next week on whether to prohibit all retailers from selling or giving plastic bags away. Right now the town has a three-cent tax on bags given out by local retailers.

The British Columbia town of Rossland is also considering a plastic bag banning bylaw.
 
The Ballenford bag I took Design City home in is supposed to biodegrade in 18 months.

I carry groceries home, all the time, in those tough LCBO bags: people on my street probably assume I'm an alcoholic.
 
I saw this story on the CTV news. They did the usual "person on the street" thing and got an opinion from a woman with a cart full of bagged groceries in a parking lot. "Reducing waste is a good thing" she said as the camera showed her groceries packed into paper bags and then those paper bags packed into plastic bags. My mind reeled... why do you need bags for your bags?

Also worth noting that paper bags are far worse for the environment than plastic. In terms of energy, water, and raw materials used to produce them, transportation costs and reusability plastic is a far superior product.
 
I reuse my plastic bags from Dominion and the drug store for garbage and recycling, so I don't buy garbage or household bags. Can't really do that with paper.

The LCBO bags are great for more heavy-duty uses.
 
vote, requires large markets and drug stores to give customers only a choice among bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.

The reusable cloth is out, of course. No store is going to be handing these out for free, and not everyone remembers to bring this type of item with them all the time.

Note that the paper bags don't even suggest bags made from recycled material; it just suggests that such bags can be reused - just like plastic bags can be reused.

Stupid policy.
 
I reuse my plastic bags from Dominion and the drug store for garbage and recycling, so I don't buy garbage or household bags. Can't really do that with paper.
Same here. I don't think I've ever bought those Glad garbage bags or whatever they are. So if plastic grocery bags are banned I'll just substitute Glad bags for Price Chopper bags? Seems kind of pointless.
 
I give my excess dominion bags to dog owning friends - they're perfect for picking up dog food.
 
I use my plastic bags for garbage too, but accumulate way more than I can use. I used to use them for recycling too, but the rules were revised and now recycling no longer accepts plastic bags. I am going to have to start throwing them out.

And I plan to go back to carrying around my cloth shopping bag.
 
The totes you get with a Film Festival bag are pefect for going to the Market on a Saturday morning. As are the those mongrammed beach bags you can get from Beans. And groceries from the market are less packaged to begin with, which is a bonus for the earth.
 
I reuse the small clear plastic bags you put fresh produce in at supermarkets as sandwich bags for lunch at work.
 
Me too! I hardly ever buy sandwich bags for this reason (though once in a while I do, as the lunch bags don't always equal the usuable produce bags). And extra grocery shopping bags contain my lunch. Totally negates the need for a grocery bag ban when you at least reuse the bags you get.
 
AP, I am on a mission to completely wean myself off of shopping at the Dominion on Front St. Surly service, constant product shortages, lack of cashiers, etc have opened my eyes to the fact that you really can buy 95% of your stuff at SLM, Farmers Market, and the Healthy Butcher.
 
Ilsa, who used to work at the Goethe Institut, mans the checkout there. She's zany fun!
 
I'm a new convert to cloth bags.

I've been using 2 cloth bags for 1/2 a year now for my groceries (I just leave then rolled up in my bag I carry to work), and do not want to use plastic bags again for my groceries. I've figured I probably saved using at least 100 plastic bags.

I still have a back log of plastic bags from before I switched, which I use for my garbage, but not sure what I will do when I run out of them.

FYI, not that its a savings incentive, but Loblaws gives a discount of 1 cent for every plastic bag not used. A cloth bag is considered 3 plastic bags. It's not really the money, just the fact that they recognize it.

With Dominion, they don't give any discount, and they seemed kinda disoriented when you bring your own bag, although they do sell re-usable bags for 99 cents.
 

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