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Globe: Palais Royale Parking Lot Finalized

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Palais finally gets a place for patrons to park
SUZANNE MA

A private parking lot for the newly refurbished Palais Royale will be built on a broad median of Lake Shore Boulevard West this fall, after a year of arguments in which local residents accused the city of sacrificing public green space in order to appease commercial interests.

Yet opposition remains among some of the Parkdale residents whose pressure forced the city and the private operator of the refurbished dance palace to retreat from plans to place parking on lakeside parkland.

"Right now the city is telling us that green space is dispensable," said Roger Brook, co-chair of the Parkdale Residents Association's community development committee. "When you're taking public park lands and paving them over to become parking lots, you should go to the community and talk to them and find an alternative that is acceptable to them."

Mr. Brook argues that the community was not consulted and alternatives put forth by the resident's association were not seriously considered.

Local councillor Sylvia Watson disagrees, saying the median parking lot was an option originally proposed by an overwhelming number of residents from the Parkdale community.

"There has been meeting after meeting after meeting," said Ms. Watson, who has stepped down from her council seat to run for the provincial Liberals in a Sept. 14 by-election. "So many people endorsed the idea; they called me, they came to me on the streets, they met with me in my office."

In late June, Toronto City Council endorsed the latest plan, which will see the construction of 125 parking spaces on the grassy median between the eastbound and westbound lanes of Lake Shore Boulevard. A pedestrian-activated traffic signal will be constructed for crossing the busy Lake Shore Boulevard.

The Palais Royale is a historic Toronto entertainment venue. Built in 1922 as a part of Sunnyside Amusement Park, it attracted artists such as Duke Ellington and Count Basie. After Sunnyside Amusement Park was demolished for the Gardiner Expressway and Lake Shore Boulevard expansions in 1957, the Palais fell into decline and became a site for occasional dance nights and concerts.

Restoration of the Palais began in July, 2005, when Pegasus Group, which runs other historic venues in Toronto, signed a 15-year lease for the property. After $3.5-million in renovations -- paid for by the Pegasus Group -- the venue reopened in June this year as a banquet hall.

Initial plans had called for a parking lot to be built east of the Palais on existing parkland between the Palais and the Boulevard Club, but opposition from residents caused the city to consider other options.

Mr. Brook, who attended the meetings, said it was clear that plans had already been approved before residents had the chance to speak. He said suggestions that Palais customers park in the eastbound curb lane of Lake Shore Boulevard and have the speed limit lowered to 50 kilometres an hour from 60, or that parking spaces in nearby St. Joseph's Hospital be made available to Palais customers, were rejected.

The curb-side parking proposal was rejected over safety concerns that, when trying to get out of their cars, drivers could get hurt by speeding traffic, the city said.

"We're exhausted," Mr. Brook said. "There has been no real discussion about any of these options we put forth, and it's such a shame that practical solutions have been dismissed."

But Palais Royale operator Terry Tsianos argued that the options were far from practical.

"They were ridiculous," he said. "We can't operate a venue without parking. No bride is going to jump in a bus and come to our place."

In the meantime, Mr. Tsianos said he has been shouldering the cost of providing a valet service that shuttles patrons to and from free municipal lots along the beachfront. It's estimated the median parking lot will cost $500,000 to build. It will be leased for 20 years to Pegasus Group at a rate of $49,000 a year. The city will also spend $160,000 to build a traffic light so patrons can cross the three lanes of eastbound traffic separating the parking lot from the Palais.

"Anyone who calls that median green space is terribly mistaken," Mr. Tsianos said. "I would never let my kids run around on a median between two highways. It's not a green space, it's land between two highways."

Ms. Watson refuted the idea that the parking lot would be taking away the city's precious green spaces and said that on the days the Palais doesn't have events, the parking lot will be made free and open to the public.

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It will be leased for 20 years to Pegasus Group at a rate of $49,000 a year. The city will also spend $160,000 to build a traffic light so patrons can cross the three lanes of eastbound traffic separating the parking lot from the Palais.

The lease terms seems fair (at least compared to the cost of construction of the lot itself), though I can not understand the complaints about the venue being far from transit (it isn't) and I don't get why the city has to spend money on traffic lights, when the overpass includes existing access to the median. I also fear it could set a precedent for other businesses to get public property for their private use.
 
I think the local opposition to using land between the Lakeshore and lake shore for parking was great. The median seems a good place to put the lot, however, so their continued opposition is unfortunate. Yes, there is green there, but it's not the kind of place anybody with a right head would spend time, so using it for parking doesn't seem inappropriate.

I actually wish more lots that are currently on the south side of Lakeshore would be moved northwards when possible.
 
I think that this is a reasonable compromise and I think that's the best place for the parking, though I do recognize the aesthetic value of a green median despite its minimal recreational use.
 
Tsianos also said elsewhere no bride would get a bus to his venue.

Well, we did (Oct 2004, to Sunnybrook Estates with a TTC charter) because the car hire outfit bailed but it also meant we could carry my family who had flown in rather than shoehorn them into other guests' cars or get taxis. The service was prompt and did exactly what we needed, including taking my family to and from a nearby coffee shop after the photos while we got the reception last details checked.

Laidlaw don't do wedding charters any more apparently due to an incident and TTC need a specific route and a month's notice I think?
 
I've been to two events at the venue and imo there is no need for additional parking. Both events which was attended by hundreds of people had no parking problems. Sure the parking lot is about a block and a half walk west of the venue, but it posed no real problem.

Paving over part of the continues green space that seperates Lakeshore is no compromise at all, its disrespectful of what is suppose to be a grand blvd in and out of the city centre.

Shame on the city of Toronto, and that deal with the developer is stupid. Why should the city pay for installing the traffic lights?

Another stupid move by the the great city of Toronto.

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The problem is that even a chartered TTC bus needs a place to park during the events. Obviously any large-scale events facility needs some sort of place to park. Using the St. Joseph's parking might have been a reasonable solution, though. Still, this is far from the worst idea.
 
I would never let my kids run around on a median between two highways. It's not a green space, it's land between two highways.

Who uses the median for recreational purposes?

Yes, there is green there, but it's not the kind of place anybody with a right head would spend time, so using it for parking doesn't seem inappropriate.

Green space does not have to be recreational space in order to be valuable. Toronto will never mature into an attractive metropolis as long as we continue to ignore or downplay the collective importance of these "orphan spaces". The green median contributes immensely to the aesthetics of what is our main waterfront boulevard in that part of town. Arguably, it is not the prettiest stretch of road, but that's no excuse to add more asphalt to the mix.

Having said that, there are competing public interests here. I am personally leaning towards the view that the restoration and continued viability of an important heritage structure justifies the loss of some green space. However, the fact that the median can't accommodate a play structure is not a good justification for paving over the median.

I do recognize the aesthetic value of a green median despite its minimal recreational use.

Well said.

I've been to two events at the venue and imo there is no need for additional parking. Both events which was attended by hundreds of people had no parking problems. Sure the parking lot is about a block and a half walk west of the venue, but it posed no real problem.

I agree -- a nice summer walk along the lake. But will patrons feel the same way in February?
 
One problem w/the green median as it stands is that it's just way too wide and banal to make aesthetic or functional sense.

At least from an aesthetic standpoint, I much prefer it around the Kingston-Danforth split (which I adore as a pioneering highway-engineering landmark of the late 1930s, and far less molested than the QEW)
 
I just drove by there yesterday. I now admit that I was wrong. The median is quite wide and shady along this stretch. Building a parking lot would necessitate cutting down dozens of trees and would vandalize the area. The leasee of the building got no assurances that he'd have a parking lot when he entered into the lease. So, tough bananas.
 
It looks like it's tough bananas for us - not the developer. He gets the parking lot, we lose the boulevard, maybe some trees too, and we get another light on Lake Shore that we pay for. Boo.

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And we get a great old building restored and back in use at no cost to us.
 
The light on the Lakeshore is a public good, a traffic calming measure. May one light be followed by many.
 

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