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Gardiner Expressway Hybrid Design

Neutrino

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traffic levels on Lake Shore without the Gardiner would be absurd. University generally isn't too bad to cross because it's built well over the capacity it services.

Lake Shore if they demoed the Gardiner would just be a giant traffic sewer with cars spilling out into intersections all the time and making aggressive turns, etc.
Which is exactly why we need major improvements to public transit before tearing down the Gardiner.
 

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Lakeshore at rush hour is already a traffic sewer with hundreds of backed up cars trying to squeeze onto the narrow, limited Gardiner on ramps.I actually think Lakeshore would flow better without the 3-4 lanes of commuters merging into one at Jarvis, York and Spadina.
 

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Perhaps developers will come forward to hem in the new Gardiner with their backs toward it, all but hiding it from a viewer on the waterfront. Pedestrian bridges connecting buildings as has been done with the rail corridor in South Core would further hide the expressway. Even better would be if the city sells air rights over the expressway and rail corridor, enabling developers to build over the Gardiner East, effectively turning it into a tunnelled expressway.
It won't happen and this is very much a "pie in the sky vision" of the future.

From the recent "Toronto of the Future" exhibit a month or so back



 

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Some of the new sections and various stages of completion.

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Hey, on the bright side, modern engineering will enable the new Gardiner to be far more visually lightweight than the monster that's down there now. It's hard to tell in the picture but if those pre-fab sections are complete parts, it's going to be almost invisible. Of course, paving and guardrails will be added but that's a fraction of the size of the existing elevated platform of the 60s.
 

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Hey, on the bright side, modern engineering will enable the new Gardiner to be far more visually lightweight than the monster that's down there now. It's hard to tell in the picture but if those pre-fab sections are complete parts, it's going to be almost invisible. Of course, paving and guardrails will be added but that's a fraction of the size of the existing elevated platform of the 60s.
I don't know... looks about the same as the portions of the Gardiner you can see in the background of those photos. Those just look like the deck portion of the roadway, not the piers/bents that hold it up. Regardless, this portion of the Gardiner has always appeared lighter than the central portion. Quite a bit of light gets through, and the highway is pretty high up.
 

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The current project is a like for like replacement of the section between Jarvis & Cherry Streets.

The future hybridization will be east of Cherry.
 

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This picture reveals something sad. The rebuild of the structure could have involved knocking down half of the roadway and reconfiguring it as 4 lanes with a better Lake Shore below. But no, every lane is sacred.
 

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This picture reveals something sad. The rebuild of the structure could have involved knocking down half of the roadway and reconfiguring it as 4 lanes with a better Lake Shore below. But no, every lane is sacred.
Except for the fact that, you know, they are doing *exactly that*.
 

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