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With election looming, PM pledges tax cuts as government racks up $13.8 billion surplus

Sep 28, 2007 04:30 AM
Les Whittington
Ottawa Bureau

TorontoStar Article

The federal government has a $13.8 billion budget surplus and Prime Minister Stephen Harper is promising income tax cuts, but there is apparently no extra money to help cash-strapped Toronto.

In an extraordinary move, Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty came to Toronto to release the annual financial report of the federal government, showing that the surplus will be $4 billion higher than projected.

They promised more tax cuts – as a federal election seems imminent – and said $14.2 billion has been paid down on the national debt, now at $467.3 billion.


But when asked if any money might be given to Toronto, which is facing a budget crisis and is considering new taxes and service cuts, Flaherty said there was no need.

He rhymed off a long list of measures meant to help Toronto. He said the reduction in the goods and services tax brought in by the Conservatives will save Toronto consumers an estimated $400 million. And the city will get an extra $50 million this year as its share of gasoline taxes.


Ottawa has committed hundreds of millions of dollars for other projects in the GTA, Flaherty said.

Asked if the contrast between the overflowing federal treasury and Toronto's budget woes would emerge as an issue in the campaign for the Oct. 10 Ontario election, Flaherty replied, "I doubt it."

That's because the Harper government already responded to complaints of lack of funding from Ontario, he said, when it promised $39 billion over seven years in extra cash for Canada's provinces.

But Liberal Premier Dalton McGuinty and even Flaherty's provincial ally, Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory, weren't buying it.

McGuinty said it "doesn't make sense" that the federal government continues to rack up large surpluses while Ontario and its cities struggle to stay out of red ink.

"Ontario is getting less than its fair share," he said while campaigning in southwestern Ontario, referring to things like employment insurance and transit funding.

McGuinty said the province is still waiting to hear from Ottawa on whether it plans to kick in money for the province's plans to spend $17.5 billion for public transit in the GTA and southern Ontario.

He said the federal government has still failed to address the employment insurance inequities.

"It takes longer for an unemployed worker in Ontario to qualify for benefits than workers in other parts of Canada and when they do qualify they get on average $4,000 less than a worker in Alberta for example. It doesn't make any sense," McGuinty said.

"The fiscal imbalance has not yet been completely addressed," Tory said after a luncheon speech.

"I don't think the issue's quite put to bed yet" when taxpayers are supplying governments with "more than enough money, but it's not getting to the right places."

Tory said cities, farmers and public transit are all desperate for more investment from senior levels of government.

But Flaherty noted that Ontario, which is running a budget surplus itself, has benefited greatly from the extra cash the Harper government committed in March to help repair the so-called imbalance between the financial resources available to Ottawa and those available to provinces.

The federal Tories, who once berated previous Liberal governments for running larger-than-expected budget surpluses, pulled in $13.8 billion more from taxpayers than Ottawa spent in the 2006-07 fiscal year that ended March 31, Harper revealed. It was $4 billion more than the government predicted in May.

Harper and Flaherty portrayed it as a win for taxpayers, holding out the promise of future income tax cuts by a cash-rich Conservative government.

Harper and Flaherty said any savings in interest payments on the $467 billion national debt would be passed on to taxpayers under the "tax back guarantee" introduced in the March budget. But that approach, which critics have derided because it might provide tax savings of only $30 a year for average taxpayers, is just the beginning, Flaherty said.

"Stay tuned because there's more to be done on the personal taxation side," the finance minister told the media.

Pledges of hefty, across-the-board income tax cuts are likely to figure prominently when the Harper government lays out a new agenda, and a possible election campaign platform, in the Speech from the Throne on Oct. 16.

But all three opposition parties are indicating that they will likely not support the speech, and will vote down the government, possibly on Oct. 18, prompting an election for late November or early December.

As they ready for a possible election, the Conservatives are positioning themselves as capable economic managers at a time when Canadians are facing mounting concerns about jobs, the health of manufacturing, the impact of a skyrocketing Canadian dollar and other issues.

Harper brushed aside a question about why the Conservatives were recording massive budget surpluses of the kind they once criticized when previous Liberal governments did it. The Tories, Harper argued, are more careful about how they spend the money than the Liberals were.

When Flaherty was asked why the Conservatives chopped $1 billion worth of social programs over the past year when it was headed for a $13 billion budget surplus, he said the government wants to eliminate what it sees as ineffective or outdated projects. "When we're looking at focused spending in government, we're looking at doing exactly that," the finance minister explained.

NDP Leader Jack Layton joined the pre-election sparring yesterday, saying he couldn't abide a government that runs up huge budget surpluses when it could be using the money to help Canadians.

"Mr. Harper used to believe in democracy. He used to believe in accountability," Layton said. "Now he believes in doing what the Liberals did: pile up the money in surprise surpluses, and pay down the debt without any consultation with Canadians about their priorities."
 
If they paid down $14.2 billion on the national debt does that in some ways mean they are really running a $28 billion surplus?
 
Copper:

I think any surpluses at the end of the fiscal year by default goes into debt reduction. That's certainly what was done during the Liberal/Paul Martin years, with the criticism that the surplus is deliberately low-balled to fend off calls for increased spending. I believe Harper isn't doing anything new in that regards.

AoD
 
I'll bash Harper for his ridiculous hypocrisy, but I see nothing wrong with a big surplus. Commodity prices of all kinds are way above forecast, and that more than accounts for the size of the surplus. If oil and mineral prices had dropped, as everybody expected, a lot of that surplus would evaporate. I'd rather be prudent and have big surprise surpluses when the economy is hot than spend to the wall and have big surprise deficits.
 
I'm surprised that some people were got caught off guard with the promise of a tax cut. Such a financial situation can't be anything but good for a minority government facing an election, and with the financial house in order courtesy of the efforts of previous governments.

And zero surprise that Toronto is not getting anything special. When the feds give, they'll go for giving something to all, and there is no plan or program in place other than what is already there.
 
'Lots of cash, but not for Toronto'

The contempt of Ottawa for Toronto is unbelievable. Not just a record surplus, but announcing it in the city just to rub our faces in it! Did I miss something? Aren't we the taxpayers who made this possible?


Lots of cash but not for Toronto
September 29, 2007
JIM COYLE
If Mayor David Miller's molars are ground down to tiny little nubs, if his face is flushed to the roots of his wondrous blond mane, if his blood pressure has risen faster than the loonie (of which he has so few), who could really blame him?

A more galling performance than the visit of the Prime Minister and his trusty finance minister to Miller's turf in cash-strapped Toronto on Thursday to announce that, up in Ottawa, they actually have more money than they know what to do with would have drawn tears of fury from a statue.

In a fair world, Stephen Harper – for the colossal arrogance of swanning into town to boast that he has scads of money, great teeming mountains of cash, pots of gold not at the end of the rainbow but filling up every nook and cranny of the national treasury – would have kissed away the prospect of winning a single seat in this city come the next federal election.

He seemed like nothing so much as the cloddish sibling who'd lucked into the stock options, showing up at a family get-together with a stack of brochures on Caribbean holidays, and blueprints for his new ski chalet, and photos from that villa he so highly recommends in Tuscany, while others around the table live cheque to cheque and hope to duck layoffs.

The timing and location of Harper's visit were absolutely exquisite in demonstrating the system's perversity and the Prime Minister's world-class contempt for and indifference to the city.

Traditionally, the annual financial report is released in Ottawa. But for some reason, it was deemed appropriate by the PM's merry band that news of the unexpected cash bonanzas for the feds – billions more in surplus than was anticipated even in March – should this year be announced in the very city, in the very week, that city council buckled to public outrage and reversed a decision (though with some popular programs still not reinstated) to close city community centres on Mondays in order to save money.

This is the town where other desperate cost-cutting measures – all of them impacting most painfully on those with the fewest options, least wherewithal and greatest need for public services – remain in force. And, symbolically speaking, does it get any worse for a city purporting to be world class even as it slides into destitution than closing public libraries on Sundays, or to be delaying the opening of outdoor ice rinks for a month?

Something is profoundly out of whack with the system when the largest city in the country where hockey was invented is so strapped it's faced with closing its skating rinks over the Christmas holidays, while the federal government to whom it has repeatedly gone cap in hand for help boasts of a budget surplus of almost $14 billion.

Campaigning provincial leaders apparently said local taxpayers are right to be outraged when it is obvious governments are being supplied with more than enough money but it's not getting to the right places.

But how cocky are the federal Conservatives? How little do they respect the leaders of this province and this city? How fully do they expect to continue giving Toronto the back of their empty hand with impunity?

Well, according to Les Whittington's report in yesterday's Star, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty was asked if he thought the discrepancy between his own swollen treasury and Toronto's empty larder would become much of an issue in the Oct. 10 provincial election.

"I doubt it," he reportedly said.

Not up there, granted, with let them eat cake. But close.
 
The contempt of Ottawa for Toronto is unbelievable. Not just a record surplus, but announcing it in the city just to rub our faces in it! Did I miss something? Aren't we the taxpayers who made this possible?

Um, how many seats did the conservatives win - do they ever win - in Toronto?

This article demonstrates typical sour grapes ...

Lots of cash but not for Toronto
September 29, 2007
JIM COYLE
A more galling performance than the visit of the Prime Minister and his trusty finance minister to Miller's turf in cash-strapped Toronto on Thursday to announce that, up in Ottawa, they actually have more money than they know what to do with would have drawn tears of fury from a statue.

In a fair world, Stephen Harper – for the colossal arrogance of swanning into town to boast that he has scads of money, great teeming mountains of cash, pots of gold not at the end of the rainbow but filling up every nook and cranny of the national treasury – would have kissed away the prospect of winning a single seat in this city come the next federal election.

Please, the Harper conservatives are relishing this moment of comeuppance, knowing they never ever - can I stress this more - ever would have won a seat in red Toronto, no matter what they did.

The timing and location of Harper's visit were absolutely exquisite in demonstrating the system's perversity and the Prime Minister's world-class contempt for and indifference to the city.

Yes, it's the middle finger salute to a city that has been giving it to him and his party for a lonnnnnng time.


This is the town where other desperate cost-cutting measures – all of them impacting most painfully on those with the fewest options, least wherewithal and greatest need for public services – remain in force. And, symbolically speaking, does it get any worse for a city purporting to be world class even as it slides into destitution than closing public libraries on Sundays, or to be delaying the opening of outdoor ice rinks for a month?

Hmmmm, maybe Toronto needs to start rethinking who it votes for.


Something is profoundly out of whack with the system when the largest city in the country where hockey was invented is so strapped it's faced with closing its skating rinks over the Christmas holidays, while the federal government to whom it has repeatedly gone cap in hand for help boasts of a budget surplus of almost $14 billion.


With this kind of thinking how can we go wrong?
 
I don't believe it is appropriate for a politician to give people the shaft simply because they didn't vote for him. Isn't that the reason we institute things like anonymous ballots in the first place? The problem here is that Harper has never pushed policies that would entice the urban, eastern voter. If she wants to win votes here, then maybe the party should start adopting some urban friendly policies.
 
Um, how many seats did the conservatives win - do they ever win - in Toronto?

This article demonstrates typical sour grapes ...



Please, the Harper conservatives are relishing this moment of comeuppance, knowing they never ever - can I stress this more - ever would have won a seat in red Toronto, no matter what they did.



Yes, it's the middle finger salute to a city that has been giving it to him and his party for a lonnnnnng time.




Hmmmm, maybe Toronto needs to start rethinking who it votes for.





With this kind of thinking how can we go wrong?

Are you suggesting an elected party is right to punish areas that didn't vote for them? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. They were elected to govern the entire country...not just the areas that voted for them.

I think if anything the Conservatives should start rethinking their priorities. They aren't getting anymore votes in the GTA with the way things are going...

As for the article, it's really sad to see the shortsightedness of recent governments. With these surpluses, now is the perfect time to invest in the nations infrastructure, especially with something like a national transit plan. This could be a period of unprecedented transit, etc. expansion, but instead we get...more tax cuts.
 
Can any of you name a new or existing program to which budget surplus cash would be sent that would be earmarked for cities?

If not, then none of this money has been budgeted to go to program funding geared toward this city, or any city, for that matter.
 
Are you suggesting an elected party is right to punish areas that didn't vote for them? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. They were elected to govern the entire country...not just the areas that voted for them..


Why would the conservatives waste money in Toronto when they know they haven't got a popsicle's chance in hell of getting a seat here?


I think if anything the Conservatives should start rethinking their priorities. They aren't getting anymore votes in the GTA with the way things are going.....

That's just the point, Toronto is NDP/Liberal territory, and the 'evil' conservatives don't have a chance of seats anyway. Instead the conservatives will continue their inroads in suburban and rural Ontario, and Quebec in particular and wont need Toronto seats.

As for the article, it's really sad to see the shortsightedness of recent governments. With these surpluses, now is the perfect time to invest in the nations infrastructure, especially with something like a national transit plan. This could be a period of unprecedented transit, etc. expansion, but instead we get...more tax cuts.

I agree with you on this, and I'd like to see it happen too, but the main priority of the conservatives right now is to secure their tenure. Hopefully if and or when this is done Harper will then start to mend some fences and woo Toronto a little, but he'll have four or five years to do that.
 
Why would the conservatives waste money in Toronto when they know they haven't got a popsicle's chance in hell of getting a seat here?

You have a point. That's always been the Liberals' affliction. You wouldn't believe the contortions that they go through to win votes in Alberta, even though they don't have, as you said, a popsicle's chance in hell of winning more than a seat.
 
But don't we need more longterm funding plans to address the city's budget problems? This surplus is for this year and elevated because of commodity prices. What about the coming years?
 
There is an infrastructure backlog. Slap that surplus in an arms-length foundation and dole it out over the next five years.
 

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