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Financial District to get BIA?

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On the agenda of Toronto's Economic Development committee is a proposal to create a Financial District BIA.

Subject to the usual approval process, but with the backing of most of the major real estate players in the area, it looks to be a go.

I think this will be great for improving the physical beauty of the area, which lots its flower display (hanging baskets) to budget cuts, prior to City Amalgamation.

Aside from hopefully seeing that restored, I would hope to see some very high standards on public realm from landlords who by-and large already do have high standards on their own properties, but would now get the chance to compel the in-fill property owners to chip in to fill the gaps; and create a more unified look.

:D

Report Below:

http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2011.ED2.9
 
Finally, this is happening. I really hope to see a Downtown Yonge BIA model adapted here, with new poles and other street furniture maintained to a much higher standard than has hitherto been the case. Our financial/downtown district has been an embarrassment for far too long, and this is a major step towards correcting that.
 
I've often thought that in spite of its national and increasingly international prominence, Bay Street in the Financial District is shockingly underinvested in terms of the public realm. Concrete sidewalks, overhead wires, rusted metal poles holding them up: it really is an embarrassment. What's also unfortunate is that some building owners spend their own money to improve things in front of their buildings, but must use their own design for lack of a unified precinct plan, resulting in a patchwork of improvements where the public realm varies depending on the building. There are blue pavers on the sidewalk in front of one building, some random stretches of concrete, then some red granite, all with completely different designs. That sort of approach doesn't make for attractive streets.

They also shouldn't become like conservative suburban Americans and start trying to discourage cyclists and street vendors from the streets they take an interest in like the Yorkville BIA.
 
I've often thought that in spite of its national and increasingly international prominence, Bay Street in the Financial District is shockingly underinvested in terms of the public realm. Concrete sidewalks, overhead wires, rusted metal poles holding them up: it really is an embarrassment. What's also unfortunate is that some building owners spend their own money to improve things in front of their buildings, but must use their own design for lack of a unified precinct plan, resulting in a patchwork of improvements where the public realm varies depending on the building. There are blue pavers on the sidewalk in front of one building, some random stretches of concrete, then some red granite, all with completely different designs. That sort of approach doesn't make for attractive streets.

They also shouldn't become like conservative suburban Americans and start trying to discourage cyclists and street vendors from the streets they take an interest in like the Yorkville BIA.
A nice summary of the peculiar predicament of the public realm in Toronto. Nascent concerns, ( and some funding ), toward the public realm in the downtown is encouraging.
 
I've often thought that in spite of its national and increasingly international prominence, Bay Street in the Financial District is shockingly underinvested in terms of the public realm.

Well, it's not like there is any excuse for it...this tiny area (less than one square km in size) is responsible for about 8% of all property taxes collected by the city (about $420 million in 2010). This is a clear case where the city is playing Robin Hood.

I'm sure the city would love to do some public realm improvements in this area, which is probably why they are pushing for a BIA there. This way, the city is only on the hook for 50% of the cost, rather than 100%. Shrewd move I'd say.

Funny...I'd see the Ford's as totally against BIA's, as they would see them as just another form of forced tax on the over-taxed private sector. They are also a "Toronto" thing (3/4 of them are in old Toronto, as opposed to the "boroughs"). And after all, we elected a mayor of "Toronto" that actually doesn't like "Toronto".
 
Perhaps, but I suspect the more they look at them, the more they'll like what they see as the goals of BIAs are their goals, more or less: cleaning up the public realm, economic development, and in cases such as the Downtown Yonge BIA, privatization in the form of street cleaning, poster removal, etc.
 
Perhaps, but I suspect the more they look at them, the more they'll like what they see as the goals of BIAs are their goals, more or less: cleaning up the public realm, economic development, and in cases such as the Downtown Yonge BIA, privatization in the form of street cleaning, poster removal, etc.

Yea...there's a flip side to that as you have pointed out. The thing is, the Rob Ford kind of brain functioning can go either way, and you'd really never be able to guess what revelation he may decide to have about it. I imagine it would be a gut reaction based on what he ate the night before.

Anyway...as for a Financial District BIA, it would seem a bit odd, as it would seem to lack much of the main reasons for existing that other BIA's have.

...It doesn't really have much of a "community" feel to promote.
...There are no public spaces other than the road and sidewalk that I can think of (there's the Cloud Garden I guess).
...it doesn't host any festivals or cultural events that I can think of
...it's not a particularly big tourist centre
...other than PATH, it isn't much of a retail area
... outside of business hours, it's fairly dead

If A BIA was formed here, the size of it would be enormous, as I'm sure it would contain far more members than any other BIA. And a lot of very rich members as well. I'm not sure how BIA budgets are determined, but based on the tax base the levies would come from, and the sheer number of businesses located within its boundaries, it could be quite substantial.

And considering its very small geographical area of public realm space, and what would seem like a small choice of things to focus their money on, whatever they do...do, could be of considerable impact. If people think Bay Street is paved with gold...well, they could literally do it.

I think this could get interesting.
 
One of the most successful elements of New York's civic scrub-up seems to be the BIA-like 'partnerships' whose staffers appear to tend to planters, pick up garbage, direct tourists etc.

Now Manhattan has enough deep-pocketed businesses that there are lots and lots of these, but in places like Toronto's financial district it is certainly a model worth strongly emulating. I think the fact of the Ford era is that public realm improvements are going to have to come overwhelmingly from private initiative.
 
Anyway...as for a Financial District BIA, it would seem a bit odd, as it would seem to lack much of the main reasons for existing that other BIA's have.

...It doesn't really have much of a "community" feel to promote.
...There are no public spaces other than the road and sidewalk that I can think of (there's the Cloud Garden I guess).
...it doesn't host any festivals or cultural events that I can think of
...it's not a particularly big tourist centre
...other than PATH, it isn't much of a retail area
... outside of business hours, it's fairly dead

Actually, one can define those things for the area.

The community in question is heavily business-oriented, and the there are tens of thousands of people who work there who could benefit from the establishment of a BIA. It can help bring together the interests of the businesses established there, as well as the people who populate the area for reasons of employment.

Downtown, sidewalks are most definitely public spaces - particularly with respect to the absence of park spaces.

While it may not possess a direct tourist destination, the area is a tourist attraction. It is the financial capital of Canada and includes some of the city's notable architecture.

The retail in the area (including the retails and services accessible through PATH) would benefit indirectly from a BIA.

The relative "deadness" after business hours is certainly something that a BIA could help address.
 
Anyway...as for a Financial District BIA, it would seem a bit odd, as it would seem to lack much of the main reasons for existing that other BIA's have.

The point would be to better 'brand' the area through improvements to the public realm. This area is home to some incredibly high profile banks and companies etc. which doesn't jibe with the somewhat tatty condition of the surroundings. A BIA makes perfect sense here, even if for slightly different reasons than a commercial area like Bloor/Yorkville.
 
I had mentioned on a thread a few year's back that the Financial District was in need of a BIA for many of the reasons mentioned above. Glad to see it may be coming to fruition. I'd also add that as the district becomes more residential (and there's been many signs of that), the need for the BIA will increase. Now seems an opportune time to start.

I also hope they market the district with something better than "Financial District." I've always liked to call it "The MINT" personally.
 
I had mentioned on a thread a few year's back that the Financial District was in need of a BIA for many of the reasons mentioned above. Glad to see it may be coming to fruition. I'd also add that as the district becomes more residential (and there's been many signs of that), the need for the BIA will increase. Now seems an opportune time to start.

I also hope they market the district with something better than "Financial District." I've always liked to call it "The MINT" personally.

Really? Anything with "MINT" in it is gonna sound lame. Financial District is the accepted term and there's nothing wrong with it and no reason to change it.
 
The point would be to better 'brand' the area through improvements to the public realm. This area is home to some incredibly high profile banks and companies etc. which doesn't jibe with the somewhat tatty condition of the surroundings. A BIA makes perfect sense here, even if for slightly different reasons than a commercial area like Bloor/Yorkville.

I totally agree. I'm totally in favour of a BIA. I was only stating that very little exists in which to focus its attention on in comparison to other "nabes".

Which is actually a good thing. When you don't have to water down your budget with a million little things, you can focus it on a few very BIG things (and I likes me some big things). And the richest square kilometre in the country by far could come up with a nice wad to focus it on too.

Since basically that leaves street improvements, they could do some damed cool street improvements...

...Street benches designed by Zaha Hadid
...Street lighting by Calatrava
..."PINKO" bike racks by Gehry .... no wait...screw that...I want Dieter Rams. Yea...Dieter is the effing man for that job.
...Free blowjob kiosks designed by Jeff Koons

Whatever...GO FREAKING CRAZZZZZY!!!

And I'm not sure why...and I'm not sure how...but I think Shatner needs to be involved.
 
Report to the September 14th meeting of Economic Development Committee recommending approval for the new BIA.
 
Latest on this BIA, its now had its inaugural meeting.

Openfile has the details:

http://toronto.openfile.ca/toronto/text/financial-district-torontos-newest-bia

REPORTED BY
Caitlin Orr

Reported on
November 17, 2011

It’s perhaps a bit ironic that the Financial District would be one Toronto’s last neighbourhoods to get its own business improvement area. It is, after all, known as the economic capital of Canada, with property tax revenues of over $400 million.

But this past September, city council approved a positive poll to designate the area as a BIA, and the group held its inaugural annual general meeting on November 9—making it the 72nd BIA in the city.

“It all just seemed to fall together,†says Ian Stewart of GWL Realty Advisors, a member of the steering committee that organized the poll who is now sitting on the board of management.

The process to form the BIA was initiated about a year and a half ago, Stewart says. Other BIAs, such as Downtown
Yonge, had proposed at a meeting last February to expand into the area roughly bordered by Richmond Street to the north, Yonge Street to the east, the CN Rail yard to the south and Simcoe Street to the west. But the major players felt their goals and objectives were different, and voted that it was time to strike out on their own.

Stewart says the BIA is likely to focus on longer-term infrastructure issues, such as reducing gridlock and coordinating city services to avoid blocking traffic flow, as opposed to increasing shopping and retail like most other BIAs.

“When the buildings were built, nobody anticipated the volume of traffic that would come now,†he says.

The 10-member board of management elected includes representatives from Brooks Brothers, Oxford Properties Group, Miller Thomson LLP, Bentall Kennedy, Scotiabank, Brookfield Office Properties, Cadillac Fairview and GWL Realty Advisors.

They will serve until 2014, the same term as the two city councillors whose wards overlap the BIA, Adam Vaughan (Ward 20, Trinity-Spadina) and Pam McConnell (Ward 28, Toronto Centre-Rosedale).

November 9th’s meeting also passed the organization’s $950,000 operating budget for 2012, making it among the richest of Toronto BIAs along with the Entertainment District, Downtown Yonge, Bloor-Yorkville and Emery Village.

Commercial property owners and tenants in a BIA pay a mandatory levy to meet the budget, and the City matches funding for some projects. Stewart says the BIA has to wait until city council determines its own 2012 budget in January, and approves theirs, before the first levy can be collected.

“In order to get office accommodations, to hire staff and to be able to develop a strategic plan we’ll obviously need money,†he says.

The financial district has the players and the resources to lobby for the interests of all BIAs across the city, says Faiza Ansari, special projects and events consultant for the Toronto Association of Business Improvement Areas.

But for the BIA itself to thrive, it will be just as important to balance the shorter-term interests of retailers with the longer-term priorities of landlords, says Susan Bellan, owner of the Yonge Street home furnishing store Timbuktu.

As a past member of the smaller St. Lawrence Market Neighbourhood BIA, she paid about $500 a year, and says she wants the levy to be an investment that benefits all 2,568 commercial tenants in the area, of which a minority are retailers.

“I don’t want to just pay my money to make your building worth more, but I don’t get anything,†she says. “I want to see some action now.â€

Although Bellan says she doesn’t think there is a conflict between the needs of landlords and tenants, landlords tend to invest in improvements that increase property values, but often don’t have an impact before businesses’ leases expire. She says it’s important that some streetscape upgrades attract more customers to businesses in the short term, or the levy becomes like an extra tax.

Bellan says she is concerned about including some of the measures BIAs typically adopt to bring more people into the area, like festivals and flowers.

While the board of management is interested in extending the beautification process the Downtown Yonge BIA has underway, Stewart says they feel advocacy for the members of the downtown core is more important.

“Banners and flower baskets won’t be high on our list of objectives,†Stewart says. Nevertheless, Bellan says the new BIA could be successful, and wants to be involved.

For example, parking is not allowed on King Street West between Yonge Street and University Avenue during the week, but “this area is kind of a wasteland on weekends,†Bellan says. With the increase in people living downtown, adjusting parking regulations could attract more visitors to a livelier financial district.

“That’s where a BIA could really chge things, so there’s a lot of potential,†Bellan says. “It’s exciting.â€
 

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