W. K. Lis
Superstar
If you read the Design Plates from this link, you'll see that the underground station platforms will be approximately 20±m below the surface.
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If you read the Design Plates from this link, you'll see that the underground station platforms will be approximately 20±m below the surface.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Is it written in "stone" that platform screen doors will be installed on the Line 5 Eglinton West LRT extension?
The Montréal REM line has it so...
Or will the penny-pinchers non-transit using politicians say "NO!"?
Maybe strange if they install the screen doors on extension but "forgot" to install them on the "original" Line 5.
The Montréal REM line has it so...
Or will the penny-pinchers non-transit using politicians say "NO!"?
Maybe strange if they install the screen doors on extension but "forgot" to install them on the "original" Line 5.
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NoahB
Active Member
There are 0 indications that the EWLRT will get platform screen doors. The line will be highly automated and can support it, but the gov isn't really targetting it for the crosstown.
H4F33Z
Active Member
No one said there will be platform edge doors. Should there be? Yes, and honestly we're spending billions to tunnel this monstrosity, PEDs actually save lives and improve reliability!
Steve X
Senior Member
I only agree with PSDs would improve reliability and prevent accidents/murders. Mentally ill people will still find other ways to end their life if they don't receive support.
OL will have PSDs since it is very problematic to operate fully automated trains without them. Line 5 will be crewed so they'll likely cheap out on PSDs.
afransen
Senior Member
Vancouver operates fully automatic trains without PSDs. There are definitely operational benefits, but it is not a requirement for automation.
NoahB
Active Member
Every fully automated line built in the last 20 years has platform screen doors. (well other than the Canada Line and some lines in India)
Montreal Metro has funding to test and implement Platform screen doors at some stations.
The reason why the Skytrain doesnt have PSDs at the moment is because they are using 3 different rolling stock with different door placements. That wont be as much a problem as the Mark Is are phased out soon enough.
toronto647
Active Member
Burying The Eglinton West LRT Will Cost An Extra $1.8 Billion And May Serve Fewer Local Riders. So Why Do It? - Daily Echoed
It’s an costly suburban transit venture that’s being constructed underground regardless of proof an above-ground route can be cheaper and serve extra folks. The description
www.dailyechoed.com
Coolstar
Senior Member
But there's so many typos in that article. The article even claims a 2028 opening date for the EWLRT. (I wish.)Burying The Eglinton West LRT Will Cost An Extra $1.8 Billion And May Serve Fewer Local Riders. So Why Do It? - Daily Echoed
It’s an costly suburban transit venture that’s being constructed underground regardless of proof an above-ground route can be cheaper and serve extra folks. The description
ARG1
Senior Member
Burying The Eglinton West LRT Will Cost An Extra $1.8 Billion And May Serve Fewer Local Riders. So Why Do It? - Daily Echoed
It’s an costly suburban transit venture that’s being constructed underground regardless of proof an above-ground route can be cheaper and serve extra folks. The description
"But to Cameron MacLeod, director of transit advocacy group CodeRedTO, the emphasis on sooner journeys and fewer stops unfairly favours long-distance riders over extra local residents.Burying The Eglinton West LRT Will Cost An Extra $1.8 Billion And May Serve Fewer Local Riders. So Why Do It? - Daily Echoed
It’s an costly suburban transit venture that’s being constructed underground regardless of proof an above-ground route can be cheaper and serve extra folks. The description
“We’re spending a lot of money for far fewer stops, which means this will be more convenient for someone who wants to go through Etobicoke than it will be for someone who lives in Etobicoke,” he stated."
Except isn't this the point? The point of the extension is to A) Get people from Etobicoke to other locations in Toronto, either Midtown or Downtown. B) Get people from Mississauga into Toronto, to either Midtown, or Downtown through Mt. Dennis, and C), funnel locals into Pearson Airport. We shouldn't be building LRTs to be replacements for busses, because we already have busses that do the job of local transportation. The entire point of Rapid Transit especially at this scale is to be a middle-ground between local and long distance transportation.
afransen
Senior Member
Yes. It is supposed to be rapid transit. There will still be buses for local service.
NoahB
Active Member
Here is the original article. The one posted above seems to be translated to Spanish and back to English or something. The language is very off.
/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/gta/2020/09/20/burying-the-eglinton-west-lrt-will-cost-an-extra-18-billion-and-may-serve-fewer-local-riders-so-why-do-it/rm_covid_sept17_017.jpg)
www.thestar.com
Burying the Eglinton West LRT will cost an extra $1.8 billion and may serve fewer local riders. So why do it?
Critics charge that the Ontario government’s proposal for Eglinton West will waste hundreds of millions of dollars and deliver insufficient transit be...
NoahB
Active Member
The underground plan is much better in general. (Building it as a subway instead of a St. Clair Streetcar)
The only thing I wish they did was to study an elevated alignment. In Vancouver, they are planning/building a Skytrain extension for 16km tracks/8 stations for 3.1B. And they have even less space to work with than on Eglinton West.
The only thing I wish they did was to study an elevated alignment. In Vancouver, they are planning/building a Skytrain extension for 16km tracks/8 stations for 3.1B. And they have even less space to work with than on Eglinton West.
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Coolstar
Senior Member
Must've been a slow day at the Toronto Star.Here is the original article. The one posted above seems to be translated to Spanish and back to English or something. The language is very off.
Burying the Eglinton West LRT will cost an extra $1.8 billion and may serve fewer local riders. So why do it?
Critics charge that the Ontario government’s proposal for Eglinton West will waste hundreds of millions of dollars and deliver insufficient transit be...
toronto647
Active Member
I personally prefer the underground portion for EGWLRT... TBH any transit project is better than no transit project in my eyes. Lets get shovels in the ground. I just shared the article as an FYI and continue getting some life in this group ahah