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syn

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Yes, however as we've said a hundred times now, most of those surface LRTs are used in contexts that completely differ from Eglinton. Its not comparable.

What about those contexts completely differ from Eglinton and make them incomparable?
 

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No, the Government of Ontario is responsible for the line going underground. They could have made the decision to elevate it, but they didn't. The City of Toronto isn't responsible for poor decisions made at the provincial level.

The city didn't want to elevate, that's the story here.

^If you followed any of the most recent City Council meeting, you would have seen City staff defend their position and indicate that they were sticking to their guns about a surface alignment. While I don't agree with everything in their position (I would like to see a couple cut-and-cover duckunders at key intersections) I thought that showed integrity and courage. One wonders how ML managed to write a business case with a completely different result. ML is not known for a willingness to speak truth to power.

Interestingly, City Staff also went further than I have ever heard to acknowledge and promote transit priority signalling, for Crosstown and for the Eglinton West extension.

- Paul

If your job is presenting the best solution, presenting a bad one (no matter how well) is bad.

Sure. Whatever the label, the point is that there are models around the world that demonstrate surface level LRTs/tramways can provide excellent service.

Not as a replacement for grade separated rapid transit.

What about those contexts completely differ from Eglinton and make them incomparable?

They tend to be used for local service or in far more far flung suburban areas, or again to supplement existing Metro Lines. Look at Paris.
 

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They tend to be used for local service or in far more far flung suburban areas, or again to supplement existing Metro Lines. Look at Paris.

Don't think the decision makers (IE. Doug Ford) would be using public transit in foreign cities like Paris, when they travel. Closest for them would be the tour buses or taxis.
 

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Council were able to lock out Ford and force a return to Transit City - surely they could have force the elevated option on Eglinton whether Ford liked it or not.

The entire council is a joke with career politicians filled with their own agendas as far as I'm concerned

That describes politicians at virtually every level of government.

Transit expansion was best when the city was in charge.
 

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Yes, city level transit expansion - Let's make a bunch of Streetcar routes and call it rapid transit, what an amazing plan.

What's the problem with providing the type of transit that will result in the highest levels of ridership?

Dan
 

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Can't be in charge if you're unwilling to pay for it. You forfeit that power for someone else to grab it.

Again, look at TTC history and you'll see it was at it's best when the city was in charge.

Increasing provincial interference and disbanding the Metro government has led to increasingly worse outcomes.
 

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God, tunneling the portion from Renforth to Martin Grove is such a waste of money.... I cant get over this.

I bet the line could be completed to Pearson in one go if they did that section at-grade with the money saved.

Could you imagine proposing to tunnel here

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