Coolstar
Senior Member
You mean the Ontario Line. The DRL is suspended as well.
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Eglinton West LRT | Metrolinx
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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innsertnamehere
Superstar
Same thing. It's just a rebrand. The city's version was technically the RL anyway, without the "downtown" tag.
robmausser
Senior Member
Yep Queen Streetcar subway > Queen Subway > Downtown Relief Line > Relief Line > Ontario Line > Vapourware Line
Coolstar
Senior Member
A great example of decades worth of planning and nothing coming out of it.
Leo_Chan
Senior Member
Century*
WislaHD
Senior Member
Would it be too big of an ask to raze the entire mega-block (Royal York --> Scarlett Road, Eglinton --> La Rose Ave) and start anew?
asher__jo
Active Member
I fail to understand how that's necessary.Would it be too big of an ask to raze the entire mega-block (Royal York --> Scarlett Road, Eglinton --> La Rose Ave) and start anew?
W. K. Lis
Superstar
They'll just have to replace the parking lots with higher density buildings. Whether or not those buildings would be higher or lower will be decided in a cage match.
WislaHD
Senior Member
Post was made in jest. It is private property so my dreams of playing sim city in the area would require heavy expropriation or rise of totalitarian dictatorship, whichever that proves more prudent.
I do think the area could do with a master-plan redesign of local street grid, parks placement, commercial and institutional placement, integration with local street network and future Crosstown West transit, along with new setback standards, so basically something like the Golden Mile Master Plan in Crosstown East. The existing high-rises are kept in place in the short-term, but redevelopment potential and standards can be prescribed.
44 North
Senior Member
Anyone think it'd be a good idea for Eglinton West to be a completely separate line from Crosstown? Hear me out. We know the Prov now wants this to be fully grade-separated (ie a "subway"). But since it's connected to the rest of Crosstown the line wouldn't be a subway by default. This could actually be one. Two car trains. Sort of makes sense to do it this way since 1) Crosstown uses hefty low-floor vehicles designed for urban tram use. Not exactly a vehicle befitting of full grade-separation in the suburbs. And 2) Crosstown east of Kennedy is dead, all configurations. So the line is really a shell of its former vision with room to play around. Also full Crosstown stations would be 90m long, this would be half those lengths (less cost).
But there's more. Sauga has done some heavy lifting with Transitway grade-separation between Renforth and Hurontario. This could lead into that (one day), just needs a proper connection to Sq One. Also one day, a N/S subway of the same system running from Kipling to Pearson - this is integral to the vision and the reason I posted. It'd be an integrated network of smaller automated subways serving 427 corridor-East/West Mall, Pearson, Eg West, and Sauga. Be a bent cross shape, about 30km, four services: Sq One-Kipling, Sq One-Black Ck, Kipling-Pearson, Pearson-Black Ck. Drawbacks, yes. But huge benefit.
But there's more. Sauga has done some heavy lifting with Transitway grade-separation between Renforth and Hurontario. This could lead into that (one day), just needs a proper connection to Sq One. Also one day, a N/S subway of the same system running from Kipling to Pearson - this is integral to the vision and the reason I posted. It'd be an integrated network of smaller automated subways serving 427 corridor-East/West Mall, Pearson, Eg West, and Sauga. Be a bent cross shape, about 30km, four services: Sq One-Kipling, Sq One-Black Ck, Kipling-Pearson, Pearson-Black Ck. Drawbacks, yes. But huge benefit.
micheal_can
Senior Member
It all should be he same then this would allow for people to continue without a hard transfer.
BurlOak
Senior Member
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
Oh lord, please don't show that to the mayor.
Ottawa has JUST made the point that this aversion to using LRVs on grade separated infrastructure make no sense.
Steve X
Senior Member
Let me improve that for you!
Volia, an extension from Science Centre to Sheppard, continue eastwards on Sheppard to STC instead of Sheppard/McCowan and the follow the SRT extension alignment to Centennial College and Malvern. The ultimate line that killed 5 birds with one stone.
crs1026
Senior Member
Being from Etobicoke, and not Scarborough, I'm not precious and don't oppose the concept of across the platform transfer. So I'm quite happy if people change vehicles at Mount Dennis. But I suspect that it will be decades before the Ontario Line (whatever it becomes) will be ready to push west from Exhibition. And the marketability of a through ride from Pearson to Eglinton east of Mount Dennis seems too desirable to pass up. So, keep Eglinton West as LRT for now, but build it with Ontario Line clearance specs so that it can be converted some day when the Ontario Line reaches Mount Dennis.
If the OL ends up being something other than vanilla TTC subway, perhaps it and the Crosstown spec's ought to converge somehow, so that Crosstown can be upgraded to the same vehicle parameters some day. I continue to wonder if Eglinton will exceed three-LRV tram capacity sooner than we predict.
I definitely like your idea of integrating with the Mississauga busway. I can see an eventual interleaved line that has service Pearson to MCC, Pearson to the east, and MCC to the east. A transfer for some at Mount Dennis doesn't strike me as a showstopper in that.
- Paul