Voltz
Senior Member
The planned stop spacing is fine, there is already a few pretty well spread out stop sections,
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Eglinton East LRT | Metrolinx
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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KhalilHeron
Active Member
If the project was meant to be an alternative to say a subway the stop spacing would be too small, but its purpose is to provide a better more comfortable, reliable higher capacity, and quicker alternative to the many bus routes that run along its corridor, which I think the current stop spacing achieves well. The shortest distance between stops is around 420m (Midland-Falmouth) which considering they're not likely to continue frequent bus service in that section seems reasonable to me.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
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Noticed the "REQUEST STOP" buttons on the stanchions. Did not notice a "REQUEST STOP" cord around the windows (could be an after arrival addition). Can someone confirm that the light rail vehicles have them, and they could bypass a surface stop if no one presses a button or does not pull the cord.
From link.
Noticed the "REQUEST STOP" buttons on the stanchions. Did not notice a "REQUEST STOP" cord around the windows (could be an after arrival addition). Can someone confirm that the light rail vehicles have them, and they could bypass a surface stop if no one presses a button or does not pull the cord.
From link.
nfitz
Superstar
It looks like the same setup as on the TTC and Waterloo Flexity vehicles. Buttons on poles and doors.
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
For some reason I keep forgetting these are single cab vehicles.
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robmausser
Senior Member
because they are dual ended but in married pairs.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
The new streetcars don't have pull cords either only buttons on poles and the open door button on the door works as one tooFrom link.
Noticed the "REQUEST STOP" buttons on the stanchions. Did not notice a "REQUEST STOP" cord around the windows (could be an after arrival addition). Can someone confirm that the light rail vehicles have them, and they could bypass a surface stop if no one presses a button or does not pull the cord.
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Steve X
Senior Member
They are dating pairs not married pairs. Married pairs are designed and built to stay together permanently and usually can't operate by themselves. These LRVs however are perfectly fine sailing along without their significant others or with a third wheeler around.
robmausser
Senior Member
Technically, but since the system doesn't have any loops but only crossovers, as far as operationally they have to work as married pairs. You're gonna have a hell of a time going backwards along the whole line with just one of these.
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
Apparently there's a control set under that panel, so not really except insofar as you won't be doing it in service.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Yes, both the Flexity Outlook and Flexity Freedom can run "backwards". There are controls in a back panel just for that as seen when they were testing out the Outlook.
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
The other thing worth noting about how married (or not) these units are is that the plan appears to be three unit trains sooner than later. This is really a case of saving some cost and gaining a few seats on the (entirely realistic) assumption that single car services aren't a factor on Eglinton.
robmausser
Senior Member
It was absolutely a good last minute idea. IIRC apparently someone spoke up at the last minute being like "wait why are we putting cabs in both ends when a single train will never run in service?" There would be little reason to have a cab at both ends. Probably cost less to build too.
WislaHD
Superstar
This comes up every few pages in this thread, since I think when looked at on a map, these stops look close together and needlessly frequent.
They are actually pretty well spaced apart if you measure the distance between them, within the sweet spot for efficient LRT operations and service coverage. Scarborough is much bigger than most people realize. Cutting a few stops will probably just make service coverage significantly worse without much improvement to operations.
ARG1
Senior Member
Being larger also means that average commute distances are also longer which means every additional or redundant stop will cause problems. As I said previously, due to the LSE line running parallel to this LRT perhaps the issue is much smaller (assuming we get Fare Integration), but in general there is a massive risk when it comes to having tighter stop spacing especially in suburbs. You can easily get away with 1km long stop spacing in suburbs, we shouldn't be afraid to stretch stop spacing as much as possible in order to shorten commutes and make the line more attractive to use.