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East Toronto Masonic Temple redevelopment (13 Chisholm Ave, near Main St & Danforth, Katalyst, 6s, ?)

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Chisholm is a 6-storey residential conversion of a former Masonic temple at Main St and Danforth Ave. Main Street Subway Station is across the street and Danforth Go Station is just 500 metres south of this station.



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The design is pure facadism and not even sensitive (see 426 University Ave). The architect might be able to design a better building without the building there and they are not really preserving any of the heritage. They are even chopping off the cornice line.

Why not cut the heritage building off at the recess? Pull the new building away from the heritage building on the north side? Cantilever the new building from the east (removed portion) over top of the preserved west portion?
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All good points. Maybe they are looking to save a few shekels.

I just see the current plan as being much better than simply pulling down the old building.
 

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I kinda disagree. The architect trades off on design to be "sensitive" to the heritage and the heritage basically is destroyed.

The City should allow additional floors on the condition the heritage is better preserved or have the developer pay for removing the heritage which hopefully results in better contemporary design and then the City puts up a stronger fight on prominent, more important heritage structures. Toronto has a tendency to compromise on both and it ends up with perverse designs. Also, stop saving Joe-schmoes house and fight for the preservation of higher grade heritage.
 

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I don't see allowing the developer pay for removing heritage structures translating to better contemporary design - good luck with that. I love the optimism but I sure don't see it happening.
 

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Still difficult to make proper interpretations without official application documents to the City. But I find it interesting that in the rendering, they've kept the Masonic Square and Compasses symbol beside the entrance. I don't believe this is considered a heritage property as a whole. So I wonder if the maintained facade wall with exterior symbology is part of some sort of agreement when the Masons sold it. Or maybe like some things in society we'll never know?
 

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Still difficult to make proper interpretations without official application documents to the City. But I find it interesting that in the rendering, they've kept the Masonic Square and Compasses symbol beside the entrance. I don't believe this is considered a heritage property as a whole. So I wonder if the maintained facade wall with exterior symbology is part of some sort of agreement when the Masons sold it. Or maybe like some things in society we'll never know?
Good question, I noted that too and wondered if it was part of a conditional arrangement they made.
 

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