"Downtown" elites?

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    King of Kensington Senior Member

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    I imagine the residents of Hogg's Hollow make the 'elites' of the Annex look like skinflints.
     
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    I definitely think it's not correlated to income, but more so beliefs:
     
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    It’s code for “educated”, “white collar” and “immigrants taking our jobs”
     
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    ...and hipsters and Starbucks clientèle.

    In some circles, it can also simply mean "arrogant people I don't like."

    I was a student of Shauna Brail as well. I too agree that "downtown elite" is inaccurate.
     
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    Yes, for the Ford crowd "elites" is defined in terms of culture, not economics.

    A construction company owner in Vaughan is not "elite" but a sessional university instructor that rents in say, Parkdale, is.
     
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    One "defense" I hear of the ridiculously extensive all of inner city Toronto definition goes something like this: Maybe an urbanist like you can appreciate these micro-differences but to someone who grew up in Scarborough the Beaches seems like downtown.

    Even though in actuality the Beaches feels more like Oakville than it does like King and Spadina.
     
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    There is a retort to that - what do you think all those non-downtown Starbucks - and there are great many of them - are selling? Double double?

    AoD
     
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    I always felt like The Beach was like a streetcar suburb with the sensibilities of a suburb suburb. Likewise, Liberty Village feels like a heritage district conceived by a Vaughan developer.

    In contrast, there are signs of urbanity in places like Port Credit, Streetsville and Downtown Whitby.
     
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    What?

    OK, please do explain this one....I don't get it.
     
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    Elites are when you walk to Starbucks. The suburbs are where people make fun of downtown elites but then go to the drive thru Starbucks.
     
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    Pretty sure most people in these "quaint" town centers live functionally suburban lifestyles.
     
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    Maybe not Port Credit. That place is for real.
     
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    Isn't 'downtown elites' just another made-up slur used by Conservatives to try to belittle it's opponents.

    I already saw it mentioned above but the real elites of Toronto are more likely to live north of downtown in a McMansion.
     
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