denfromoakvillemilton
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Because they keep making them! Just work on the project if there are no issues.What makes you think the TTC is trying to get out of the SSE? Their comments about the cost overruns aren't anything they haven't said already.
2025 is actually a reasonable time frame isn't it? These things usually take around 10 years?
"Around 10 years" is reasonable, yes. But detailed engineering work has yet to be competed, so exact timetable is impossible to know for sure. But the TTC has said since the one stop Subway was proposed that 2025 would be nearly unachievable. I'd wager that 2026 to 2027 will be the actual schedule.
Every year of delay adds something like $100 Million to the price, hence the urgency.
It should be 5 and not 10 years. Even from now. It does not take 2 years to do an EA or design work. Tory should have made them start immediately.Without an EA and initial design work, anything can be up in the air. We still have funding problems, EA approval, TBM ordering, land acquisition and tendering to get through. The EA will take at least 2 years to be approved if it starts soon. This includes about 3 public meetings. It will take at least another year and a half to put a shovel in the ground after the EA process. If TTC actually goes with a P3 and tender the whole thing out to a consortium, it will take longer to tender as the consortium needs to do some design work. 5 years for construction is really pushing it considering TYSSE and Crosstown are taking significantly longer. Heck it takes 4 years for a LRT with little digging. It should really be 2.5 years for a surface LRT like Finch West. With everything approved and funded, Finch wouldn't even start till late-2017.
I don't expect any groundbreaking work will occur till late 2020. Late 2026 or mid 2027 is more likely opening date. Even the crosstown was planned for a 2020 completion was set to 2021 by the consortium at the time the project is tendered.
The figures are chosen are very optimistic and never correct. TTC has failed to deliver anything on time recently. TYSSE, Leslie Barns, streetcar overhead replacement, Line 1 ATC, etc. They should just told everyone the subway will open by 2028 with a possible $4.5B. Let's see if the councilors still prefer it over the LRT.