I don't think Malvern is a particularly good spot to encourage growth, though.
Please check the RTES report again. Sheppard East is the densest employment area in Scarborough after STC. Malvern houses one the most ethically diverse, new immigrant communities in the city amounting to some 60, 000 reidents.
The complete census of Ward 18 cannot be 'assumed' to be 75, 000 indefinitely because alot of new immigrants tend to co-habitate (i.e. to share residence communally) upto twelve famnily members per household. Housing projects in Brookside, Morningside Hts, Rouge Valley and Conlins redevelopments have yet to even be surveyed.
Then there's the 905 side of things. With Markham-Bypass linking up to Morningside Avenue north of Finch there's a definite feeder to and from the suburbs, encouraging growth. The non-parkland developable lands north of Steeles could accomodate an unforseen as yet 100, 000 people.
Finally there's the relatively short highway trek Durham express routes could make from PTC to Meadowvale or Dean Park, creating a direct link between PTC, STC, NYC and Pearson. There are too many reasons beyond the shockingly overlooked fact that the TTC's recognized Malvern's worth since the early 80s if not earlier, to ignore it's potential.
I mean it's not like MTC couldn't become a neo-STC or Fairview in the future, it's an island of developable land surrounded by a thriving densely populated transit-dependent community. I'm all for Sears, Best Buy, Walmart and Canadian Tire moving in if it spurs endless convenience for tens of 000s.
I'd certainliy support a subway to Vaughan Corporate Centre before one to Malvern, since at least its planning actively encourages growth compared to the Zoo area which prohibits it.
The only plus of the VCC extension is that the 905 chips in to build it although they're only financing their north-of-Steeles stub so it doesn't exactly benefit Torontonians at all.
The most obvious places to encourage intensification is the waterfront. Other spots that could work are the Eglinton corridor.
I agree. Eglinton in of itself is great but we can't be fooled into thinking Markham Rd and Renforth Dr are the say all, end all. We must expand! Me fighting for recognition of Kingston-Morningside-UTSC is to question why you'd build a line only so far when there are nodes farther east that deserve accessibilty. I'll say this again, Morningside is the last dense corridor in east Toronto where present-day demands warrant a subway. Stopping part-way because some posters feel it's too far away from the core is the dumbest logic in the world. "Yeah it's too far way from Yonge, so let's make it even further by not giving it a rapid link!" :rolleyes .
the Don Mills corridor, the Weston corridor, and particularly the Sheppard and North Yonge corridors where it's already happening
The quest for intermediates will likely wedge on though. If Yonge and DRL were done to their full potential they'd resemble a rethinking of the YRT VIVA routes basically:
Yonge north of Finch- Cummer/Drewry, Steeles, Clark, Centre, Royal Orchard, Langstaff, Bantry, Carville/16th, Weldrick, Major Mac, Crosby, Elgin Mills, Bernard, Gamble/19th.
DRL East- Queen, Gerrard, Danforth, Mortimer, Cosburn-O'connor, Millwood, Thorncliffe Park, Flemingdon Park, Eglinton, Barber Greene, Lawrence, Bond, York Mills, Sheppard, Van Horne, Seneca College, Gordon Baker/McNicoll, Woodbine/Steeles, Denison, Esna-14th, 407, 7.
DRL west leg as King West, Queen (Parkdale), Lansdowne South, Bloor, Annette, St Clair(Stockyards), Roger's, Eglinton and onwards.
I lived down the block from a subway station in Munich. We were on a residential street with single-family homes and duplexes. The station was never particularly busy, but it served the neighbourhood rather well.
What you've just described is subway utopia, I'm salivating at the mouth just thinking of a system so idyllic :b ! The Beaches/Fallingbrook, West Hill or Long Branch could easily fit the mould for this type of mild intensification occuring on a local scale.
The line was on its way to the massive new Messe (trade fair complex).
So all it'd take to build a line to Rouge Hill is rennovate Port Union Mall into some massive complex? Better pitch this to the mayor asap :lol . Seriously though if either Eglinton or Sheppard entered Pickering to dense-enough-for-a-subway PTC there's no way in hell they could refuse UTSC, Malvern, the Zoo or Rouge Hill their stops on the line now!
The S-Bahn and U-bahn connections are seamless, and they're all very reliable. It doesn't hurt that the new stations are gorgeous. You should take a look, socialwoe.
I did, impressive what a city half our population size can do when meanwhile less than 30% of our surface area even has subways. Maybe the problem is our adhereness to strict guideways which of course brings me back to my jog initiative.
Jogging a line to the closeby dense node/trippers isn't lunacy, it just maximises ridership. Interlining also seems to work for Munich as the cost of building multiple lines to serve the same downtown core is ridiculous. Better to follow the same guideway til point of destination spurring off occurs.
Ditto on the creation of crosstown travel. Queen-Eglinton completely covers the periphery of southern Toronto, allowing everyone within the core access and better service to out-of-towners no longer living their lives around scheduling when the next GO train
chooses to show its ass up!
I can see it now:FavelaTown,
Sounds way cooler than 'Zoo' and doesn't redundancy the station name 'Meadowvale'. Gee thanks man, you've ideally protrayed a situation far less grim than the marl quarries, calcified industrial relics and undetermined levels of hazardous, potentially radioactive dust floating through the oxygen supply of your Finch West and Markville extraganzas called Quagmire Junction and Hell's Embargo brought to you by the Corpoaration of Public Idiocy
! Oh yeah the Donalda Golf Clubbers of Graydon Hall say hello:evil !